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Oh, I think they do more than that, don't you? Given the usual intelligence and fairmindedness of your posts I'm surprised to see you say such a thing.
I wasn't knocking the electrician. I was more or less critiquing the policy which the union set requiring an electrician to plug in appliances. True story, my uncle got written up for plugging in his own desk light... I've seen the good, the bad, and the ugly when it comes to the unions. But after reading what I wrote again, I understand how the intent of my statement could have been misconstrued.
Exactly what i was thinking.
1250 jobs is nice.
Then add in suppliers/other jobs related to the massive expansion.
Heck its alot more economical to manufacter the transmission parts in Kokomo than truck them in from far away.
So well wait and see how big the ripple effect is going to be
Bingo, and at $14/hour the robotic alternatives to labor are less attractive. Corps buy robots based on the payback period, i.e. robot cost/direct labor and benefit costs it avoids. If it pays for itself fast enough (2 years or less is common), bye bye jobs.
A $14 hour employee with benes most likely, even after Health Insurance, costs $50-60k/year. A $30/hr employee probably costs $100k. It is not linear, as Health Care is a fixed expense based on the plan, not the wage. But still that means a robot costing $150k is viewed unfavorably if it only replaces 1 employee at $14/hr (2.5 year minimum payback), but if the employee cost $30/hr, it is a 1.5 year payback, and that highly paid blue collar job just went bye-bye.
Bingo, and at $14/hour the robotic alternatives to labor are less attractive. Corps buy robots based on the payback period, i.e. robot cost/direct labor and benefit costs it avoids. If it pays for itself fast enough (2 years or less is common), bye bye jobs.
A $14 hour employee with benes most likely, even after Health Insurance, costs $50-60k/year. A $30/hr employee probably costs $100k. It is not linear, as Health Care is a fixed expense based on the plan, not the wage. But still that means a robot costing $150k is viewed unfavorably if it only replaces 1 employee at $14/hr (2.5 year minimum payback), but if the employee cost $30/hr, it is a 1.5 year payback, and that highly paid blue collar job just went bye-bye.
Humans can still do somethings better than a robot and vice versa.
still The Unemployed should be snatching these jobs up in Kokomo cause honestly each person off the unemployment roles is a good thing.
I'd be more interested in knowing how many people are applying for these jobs aka the competition. You have to know someone who can get the wheels moving for you.
Humans can still do somethings better than a robot and vice versa.
still The Unemployed should be snatching these jobs up in Kokomo cause honestly each person off the unemployment roles is a good thing.
Robots are much improved and cheaper than the robots just 10 years ago. We need to make sure we do not make robots the more cost effective alternative.
Robots are much improved and cheaper than the robots just 10 years ago. We need to make sure we do not make robots the more cost effective alternative.
Well robots still cant analyze documents and apply logic to them.
Robots are only as good as a calculator.
Robots are much improved and cheaper than the robots just 10 years ago. We need to make sure we do not make robots the more cost effective alternative.
Robots are still installed, maintained and programed by people. In most facilities, they are operated by people. More than likely, many of these new hires will be trained to operate the robot cells which dominate the modern production floor of the big three automakers. Even at $14/hr, these robots are more cost effective, but they certainly don't eliminate everyone. They just make people more efficient, so fewer workers are required.
If it was as simple as installing robots and replacing all the people, they would have done that a long time ago. Still need operators, quality control, programmers, maintenance workers, forklift drivers, cafeteria workers, people to clean the floor... Small quantity production can't be replaced by robots to the level large scale production is. The tools in which are required for many of the jobs are made by people, often aided by advanced computer controlled drafting and manufacturing equipment. The molds and dies used in these factories are still labor intensive. Still have plenty of guys fixing up and repairing shotty Chinese dies and such. Too many glitches and problems to automate those processes. Why are many workers still needed? Robots can't think. They do what you tell them to do.
AI is still in its infant stage, but mfg robots have already progressed tremendously.
They sure have. The processes still require a human to prepare. New widgets still demand people to plan every step of the operation. Often times, that comes from trial and error. Slight variations on old jobs can even be a challenge when new batches of material are supplied. Not all materials behave the same during production operators, so people are required to sort everything out. Aluminum from one supplier might be a nightmare to run on a job where previous batches ran without a flaw. It's all the little things that you are not seeing, and there's literally thousands of them.
Will we ever get to a point where you can simply turn a robot on and get good parts? When you're talking about a fraction of a human hair, we are still a long ways away. Easy stuff, we're already doing light out manufacturing, especially for easy materials like brass. Things still happen, but rarely enough that you can afford to turn a machine on and let it run for the night.
Even still, remember how agriculture required 50% of the population? With all the advancements in industrial scale agriculture, you still have people picking fruits and vegetables. Go figure...
Humans can still do somethings better than a robot and vice versa.
still The Unemployed should be snatching these jobs up in Kokomo cause honestly each person off the unemployment roles is a good thing.
Yep, the unemployed should pack their family up, and move to small town Indiana.
It will be good for that town, because it is a crap hole, but not feasible for many people.
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