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Old 07-01-2012, 08:29 PM
 
Location: Las Vegas
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Wow...what a HEARTLESS world we live in today. There once was a time when people had compassion for other people and if they saw someone in need and they could help, they would...why not? Because the people in this world now are SELFISH,cut throat , and greedy. So what if someone could potentially lose their home, car, etc...as long as you get yours. With this way of living, it's no wonder there are so many pointless murders on the news. It's total disregard for fellow human beings. I bet if it was you who was being challenged you wouldn't be talking all this equality bs. By the way I talked with my manager today and she made the excellent point that NO ONE except for managers have any business with what goes on with your schedule. She also understood that these people who complained were being malicious. So anyway it looks as though there are a FEW good people out there still...God help the rest of you.
It's all supply and demand. Right now the employer is in the catbird seat. There are hundreds of people who would gladly take your job who have no problem working any hours. That's just the way it is today. Your employer does not care about you because you can be replaced. He does not have to work on making your schedule or anyone else's work for them because there are 100 people in line pleading for that job.

Even if you are the best worker they have, they could care less. They don't have to care. The pendulum always swings and some day the worker will again be in a better place than the employer. But that's not going to happen any time soon. Since you don't have the power to change our economy, you will have to become more flexible and willing to do more. You are no more 'special' than everyone else. Another worker bee, an expense on the payroll. Another number, a resource.

I'm not judging you or anyone else. Personally, I think work conditions out there are horrendous. But I'm not special either and I don't have the power to change things. I have to live in the real world and it would be completely wrong to encourage anyone to take a stand and fight their employer over working the same kind of schedule as their co-workers. Taking an action like that has disaster written all over it.
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Old 07-01-2012, 08:29 PM
 
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An employer can give preferential treatment (or not) whether it's for seniority, relationship, height, or any other circumstances not covered by discriminatory laws. It's completely up to the employer and management.
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Old 07-01-2012, 08:34 PM
 
Location: NJ
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Those employees took the job knowing their schedule was a certain way. I'd be curious to know if the others actually need or want to work those shifts, or if the complaining was just to make a point.

Just for clarification, I have not said and do not think a mom should get preferential treatment. she gets her schedule because she's been there longer, not because she's a mom.
Schedules can change for anyone.Boo Hoo. Her family situation is not relevent. There is a business to run.
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Old 07-01-2012, 08:35 PM
 
Location: NJ
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It's all supply and demand. Right now the employer is in the catbird seat. There are hundreds of people who would gladly take your job who have no problem working any hours. That's just the way it is today. Your employer does not care about you because you can be replaced. He does not have to work on making your schedule or anyone else's work for them because there are 100 people in line pleading for that job.

Even if you are the best worker they have, they could care less. They don't have to care. The pendulum always swings and some day the worker will again be in a better place than the employer. But that's not going to happen any time soon. Since you don't have the power to change our economy, you will have to become more flexible and willing to do more. You are no more 'special' than everyone else. Another worker bee, an expense on the payroll. Another number, a resource.

I'm not judging you or anyone else. Personally, I think work conditions out there are horrendous. But I'm not special either and I don't have the power to change things. I have to live in the real world and it would be completely wrong to encourage anyone to take a stand and fight their employer over working the same kind of schedule as their co-workers. Taking an action like that has disaster written all over it.
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Old 07-01-2012, 08:37 PM
 
Location: here
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should moms not try to attend their children's conferences? school plays? so as not to inconvenience anyone else? quote]

Yes and yes-if inconvenience is the result. Choose either be a SAHM or work under the same schedules a all others. In 20 plus years, I have seen ZERO reciprocation from "moms" in the workforce. Other employees issues are EVERY bit as vital, and deserve EQUAL consideration.
oh goody. Another SAHM vs working mom thread. The kid's father DIED. Do you seriously think being a SAHM is even a remote possibility.

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Schedules can change for anyone.Boo Hoo. Her family situation is not relevent. There is a business to run.
ya. I said exactly that.
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Old 07-01-2012, 08:40 PM
 
Location: NJ
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oh goody. Another SAHM vs working mom thread. The kid's father DIED. Do you seriously think being a SAHM is even a remote possibility.
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Than work ANY hours they want. No restrictions. Commit to employment under terms set by the employer, the corp paying for your time. No excuses. As another poster said, there are a hundred who would gladly take your job under 100% of the conditions set by the employer.
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Old 07-01-2012, 09:39 PM
 
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To bobtn and all the rest of the bitter ones, you can have your opinion but you ARE wrong. I'm sure there are plenty who would like to take my job, but they aren't me and thank goodness my manager realizes that. I just want to update and clarify to everyone that I still have my schedule and my full time position.
The others that complained to management and started all of this are young, inexperienced, spoiled little girls who have no idea what responsibility is. All 3 still live at home. With that said I am aware that they are still human beings and have a right to feelings and wants. The thing is, even if I had to change MY schedule, theirs would not change anyway, they would not be inconvenienced because nothing would change except MY schedule. They have no problem with the schedules they have now, that's not what they complained to the manager about. The managers had no problem with my schedule and the other senior employees don't have a problem either.??? hmm..??? I've worked an open availability schedule at the same time some others had set schedules and I never even thought to complain!
From a financial standpoint, I am a "queen bee". Because they lack experience, they make no where close to what I make for the company nor bring in near as many happy clients. Hmm...I guess that's why they decided to let me keep my schedule and full time position.
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Old 07-01-2012, 10:38 PM
 
Location: California
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It seems to have worked until others complained.
Then it no longer works.
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Old 07-01-2012, 10:59 PM
 
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To bobtn and all the rest of the bitter ones, you can have your opinion but you ARE wrong. I'm sure there are plenty who would like to take my job, but they aren't me and thank goodness my manager realizes that. I just want to update and clarify to everyone that I still have my schedule and my full time position.
The others that complained to management and started all of this are young, inexperienced, spoiled little girls who have no idea what responsibility is. All 3 still live at home. With that said I am aware that they are still human beings and have a right to feelings and wants. The thing is, even if I had to change MY schedule, theirs would not change anyway, they would not be inconvenienced because nothing would change except MY schedule. They have no problem with the schedules they have now, that's not what they complained to the manager about. The managers had no problem with my schedule and the other senior employees don't have a problem either.??? hmm..??? I've worked an open availability schedule at the same time some others had set schedules and I never even thought to complain!
From a financial standpoint, I am a "queen bee". Because they lack experience, they make no where close to what I make for the company nor bring in near as many happy clients. Hmm...I guess that's why they decided to let me keep my schedule and full time position.
Never say never. You think you're the "Queen Bee" as you say, well anyone is replaceable, anyone.

Those three or someone from the outside can come along and you could be replaced.

Plenty of Queen Bees end up getting stung. Happens everyday.
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Old 07-01-2012, 11:25 PM
 
Location: home state of Myrtle Beach!
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OP your problem isn't with the posters in this thread, it is with the people you work with; stop trying to make it seem like those of us that have replied to your post are mean. We have all told you how we see it...the employment situation is on shaky grounds in many places and sometimes making demands of your employer works against you. Only you know the situation at your workplace; we can't possibly have known your employers would be willing to accommodate you after receiving complaints but you should have known that you could talk to your manager and possibly not lose the hours. There are many people with strong opinions on this forum. They develop these opinions from the way they have been treated or see that others are treated. Doesn't make the advice received right or wrong and isn't worth the argument that has ensued here. Move on! You got your hours back; that's all that matters!
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