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Old 01-19-2012, 02:38 PM
 
Location: Up in the air
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I was just talking to my husband about this. In his field they want the purchasing person to do shipping AND inventory now in many of the ads.

If you want to be an administrative assistant, many ads expect you to also do payroll AND accounts payable and receptionist...



However bad, though, I think it will improve. People HAVE to retire eventually. The population is shrinking. New jobs are developed every day. Many jobs do not exist that will in the future. We have to hope to ride it out.
For purchasing, that's going to become extremely commonplace. I do parts/purchasing/inventory/shipping and receiving as well as facilities management (cleaning, shopping for supplies etc), and parts research/data entry and accounting for 3 different facilities. Just me. In a similar sized business they would have at least 4 people doing what I do. And not too long ago my boss told me I should be thanking him because he coul hire someone on at half my pay to do my job.
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Old 01-19-2012, 02:52 PM
 
Location: Woodinville
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This will be going on as long as there are people out there willing to do twice the work for half the pay. It's pretty easy for employers to power play unemployed people right now. Once things pick up, people are going to be leaving their triple jobs in droves to get something easier or better paying.
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Old 01-19-2012, 05:08 PM
 
Location: Wartrace,TN
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I've noticed additional job duties for less pay in many advertisements. It is probably not going to work out too well for employers in the long run. If you expect someone to do the job of three/four people correctly you have unreasonably high expectations.

I can't help but think there will be errors and omissions in possibly critical job functions. In some instances a business manager or owner may not even realize there is a problem until it cost thousands of dollars.

Employers can believe everything is done correctly if they wish, it is going to come back and haunt them later. They can expect people to do three or four jobs but when there is a failure they should know the person in the mirror is solely responsible.
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Old 01-20-2012, 10:49 AM
 
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I was just talking to my husband about this. In his field they want the purchasing person to do shipping AND inventory now in many of the ads.

If you want to be an administrative assistant, many ads expect you to also do payroll AND accounts payable and receptionist...



However bad, though, I think it will improve. People HAVE to retire eventually. The population is shrinking. New jobs are developed every day. Many jobs do not exist that will in the future. We have to hope to ride it out.

I don't see a problem. If you were self-employed you would be doing all of that and MORE. At some point your time becomes more valuable than the task and you hire someone to help out so you can spend your time on your core business.
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Old 01-20-2012, 10:57 AM
 
Location: Baltimore, MD
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I've been saying this for awhile. Many marketing jobs I see posted also want you to be able to do graphic and web design as well. Use to be that you wrote and managed the project but handed the visual graphics to another and sometimes the printing to another.

Now they want someone to do it all and be proficient in a number of design programs
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Old 01-20-2012, 11:25 AM
 
Location: In the loop
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I don't see a problem. If you were self-employed you would be doing all of that and MORE. At some point your time becomes more valuable than the task and you hire someone to help out so you can spend your time on your core business.
The problem is maybe one person CANNOT do the physical work of 2-3 people. If you are multi-talented, great, it makes you more marketable. The problem comes when the BOSS expects you to do all three FULL time. How can one guy do the job of 3?

My husband's boss replies, "I don't care. No excuses. Just get it done."

Meanwhile his coworker literally does nothing all day and the boss KNOWS this and comments on it all the time yet nothing changes..
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Old 01-20-2012, 01:21 PM
 
Location: NC
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I don't see a problem. If you were self-employed you would be doing all of that and MORE. At some point your time becomes more valuable than the task and you hire someone to help out so you can spend your time on your core business.

Payroll is a pretty critical function along with properly handling accounts payable.

We are talking your small to average sized business with 1mil - 10mil revenues, I would want a real professional doing this, not seeking to hire a secretary to mess it up.

Payroll mistakes can cause huge problems....

IRS Penalties and fines for missed deposits
Employee's get wrong accruals for time off etc, wrong amounts paid
Easy area for fraud to occur as well, so you want an experienced person

Payable mistakes?

Not having enough controls on receiving and double paying sometimes
Risk of fraud
Identifying and spotting errors / spotting opportunities for discounts

Most businesses need real experienced people to do this.
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Old 01-20-2012, 01:54 PM
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Location: Tall Building down by the river
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You see a lot of this in the mental health field which seems to be a sign of the times.
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Old 01-20-2012, 02:27 PM
 
Location: NJ
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The cost of Headcount related benefits, mainly Health Care, have exploded, making the reduction of headcount per entity a logical reaction. The reality is, with 14 million unemployed, the business will find someone capable of all of the tasks at a reasonable level, more than happy to do it at the 2012 going pay rate.

Attempting to cling to the bloated headcounts of the decades past, when managers thought having more people increased their stature, are fruitless.
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