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Old 12-27-2010, 08:19 PM
 
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don't worry about that...have you wandered around any Walmart lately and attempted to ask for help? OMG...it's comical, in a very sad sort of way. All I can imagine is that those 'lucky people' who have those jobs, don't get breaks as required by law, put up w/horrible managers, work excessive o/t at a very minimum wage while having to go through their morning 'Rah Rah session...health care optional of course.

I'm sure you'll have a very prosperous New Year.
Koale
aw, Walmart is sad . Target is way better.

And thank you, I hope you have a prosperous new year too!
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Old 12-27-2010, 09:22 PM
 
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i have some pet peeves when hireing people after reading the one post about if asking someone about there socalled married or not married status.. i have been at my company now 22 years and i allway am a amazed at people when we used to tell them that it was 5.1/2.days week and your weekends was the days we gave off on and you worked the hours that you where give you to work or you did not work for the company anymore ..now all these years of working graveyards shift iam still a night owl type of person and like to work graveyard shifts at the place is work .. ..

number 1 on my personal pet peeves when hireing people

after hireing the person to work this shift that we are short personal on and about three months into there first year with us and we get this from them all the time along with this goes both for men and women who do this

i can no longer work weekends or holidays or evening or night shift i need to have me schedule reworked to make it day time only monday through friday work schedule because of the my kids or wife or husband does not like the hours iam working

we can understand the need for something like this if the kid or you comes up with a life threating illness like cancer or some other type of medical illness problem then we will work with you to help in that area . then no you where hired to work this shift and these are you days off or you want to switch with someone then you get someone to take your day off and you take there day and if you do not show up for the shift then you both get writen up for it .. and sorry intill you get about 5 years or more on the job then come back and asked about changeing your work schedule that you are on ..

.if you have plans for that day to do something then get with your station shift team leader thats on duty with you that week to give us at least two weeks before to put the time you need to leave by this frame on the upcomeing two week work schedule ..

so that when we come around and ask for extra help and we are looking at the work schedule we know not to ask you when we going around and asking people can you stay over for about hour or two to help with the rush

number 2 on my personal area of pet peeves when hireing people ..

i have a college degree so what it might get you hired with a little more money than one person without one who comes to work for us ..

but it boils down to work experience that counts in our line of business ..i can not send you to school to get the knowage of how to run a nightclub or restautrant or a work a casino floor ..it can not be taught in school it takes the one thing and one thing only Experience to do that and the knowage that has been bult up over the years of working in that line of work
Seriously, you have a college degree! I can't even read this post because of all the spelling errors.
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Old 12-27-2010, 09:24 PM
 
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I think this post was written by "Peggy", the guy on those commercials for Discover Card.

OMG...lol...so true!
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Old 12-27-2010, 10:52 PM
 
Location: NJ
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I understood both posts, although they are obviously written by someone for whom English is a second language (and/or may have a form of dyslexia).

Firstly, he has an issue with people who accept work with a clearly defined structure (shifts) and then insist on accommodation and changes within a few short months of starting. He states that needs based is fine (emergency or illness) but that not everyone can be accommodated just because.

His second peeve is people who expect special treatment and much higher salaries for a college education in an industry where experience is a far more valuable asset and a college education brings little to the table.

His second post extrapolates on the education issue. He says that the business has a very specific training program that requires people (supervisors) to experience all roles and positions so that they understand the business and can fit in at a moments notice wherever required.
He says he has people in the training program now complaining about having to do the more menial tasks when required. Not only that but will just stand around watching other workers suffer at peak times rather than dive in and get their hands dirty. Finally he mentions that he was trained to manage "old school" - where management is willing to dive in and do whatever needs to be done at peak times to keep things moving.

It sounds like the OP works in hospitality and he is right -managers in those fields ARE and should be expected to dive in where necessary. There are also a thousand little tiny details which need to be observed in order to keep things running smoothly and the only way to really know them is through hands on experience.

I can also say that I see quite a high percentage of the incoming workers who have just the entitled attitude he is describing, that they have the degree and therefore don't need to learn the ropes or start at the bottom.

On a personal note - to the snarky commenters - what's up with that? The guys English isn't perfect, but he doesn't have an attitude about that so its a wash. Doesn't mean his observations have little value. The snotty comments show little of value though, like high school snark.
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Old 12-27-2010, 10:59 PM
 
Location: NJ
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Why are illiterate people like the OP afforded the opportunity to work while literate people like me can't find a job while I finish school?

I didn't even read his posts because I couldn't understand him.
After 22 years continual service perhaps he brings something of value to his employer? Like experience, reliability, management skills, organization, real life business knowledge and the willingness to do whatever it takes to keep things running smoothly.

I'd say a sense of entitlement ISN'T in that list.
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Old 12-27-2010, 11:24 PM
 
Location: The Chatterdome in La La Land, CaliFUNia
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Probably because you assume people who can't spell or write as well as you don't have anything informative to say. I'm not saying the OP made much sense, but when you think you are above the effort it takes to listen to what someone less educated than you has to say, it's not hard to see why you aren't having any luck finding a job.
I honestly tried to read the OP and disregard the spelling and grammatical errors but I had trouble understanding his points.
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Old 12-27-2010, 11:31 PM
 
Location: The Midst of Insanity
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In my experience, married people do not ask for special accomodations, but those with children often do.

I have worked graveyard shift for a couple of years now, and it's difficult to find people to work this shift. They often want to come in and sleep, i.e "I can't stay awake". Well, one needs to adjust their schedule accordingly-sleeping, eating and all.
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Old 12-27-2010, 11:39 PM
 
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Why is the OP in a position to hire when he/she can't even spell "hiring"?
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Old 12-27-2010, 11:39 PM
 
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I understood both posts, although they are obviously written by someone for whom English is a second language (and/or may have a form of dyslexia).

Firstly, he has an issue with people who accept work with a clearly defined structure (shifts) and then insist on accommodation and changes within a few short months of starting. He states that needs based is fine (emergency or illness) but that not everyone can be accommodated just because.

His second peeve is people who expect special treatment and much higher salaries for a college education in an industry where experience is a far more valuable asset and a college education brings little to the table.

His second post extrapolates on the education issue. He says that the business has a very specific training program that requires people (supervisors) to experience all roles and positions so that they understand the business and can fit in at a moments notice wherever required.
He says he has people in the training program now complaining about having to do the more menial tasks when required. Not only that but will just stand around watching other workers suffer at peak times rather than dive in and get their hands dirty. Finally he mentions that he was trained to manage "old school" - where management is willing to dive in and do whatever needs to be done at peak times to keep things moving.

It sounds like the OP works in hospitality and he is right -managers in those fields ARE and should be expected to dive in where necessary. There are also a thousand little tiny details which need to be observed in order to keep things running smoothly and the only way to really know them is through hands on experience.

I can also say that I see quite a high percentage of the incoming workers who have just the entitled attitude he is describing, that they have the degree and therefore don't need to learn the ropes or start at the bottom.

On a personal note - to the snarky commenters - what's up with that? The guys English isn't perfect, but he doesn't have an attitude about that so its a wash. Doesn't mean his observations have little value. The snotty comments show little of value though, like high school snark.

Not that I was being snotty or snarky but I just couldn't follow what the OP was trying to say.
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Old 12-27-2010, 11:46 PM
 
Location: 53179
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You guys are jerks. Just goes to show how little you care about peoples feelings. Only because you cannot understand what people writes does not make them less smart than you are. Have you ever heard of dyslexia? I don't know if that is his problem or if he just writes without proof reading, and ends up with tons of typos? Maybe English is not his first language?If that is the case, I can sympathize with him.
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