07-23-2009, 10:57 AM
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We are looking at homes in Somers and Katonah. With the low inventory in Katonah and lower taxes in Somers, Somers seems like a good fit. Has anyone made the decision of one over the other- and why? What are your impressions of each town- is one "better" than the other? The schools seems comparable, but Katonah has the train and town pool. Any other differences we should know about before choosing one over the other? Thanks!
07-23-2009, 12:02 PM
Location: Yorktown Heights NY
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Somers and Katonah are quite different in some respects, but other than the school and the pool (Katonah has a nice one; Somers doesn't have one) your day-to-day life won't be very different in either since they are next to each other and have a lot of overlap (there is a large area with a Katonah address and Somers schools). If you live in Somers you will still go to Katonah village for stores and to the Katonah Museum. If you live in Katonah you will still go to Somers for Muscoot Farm, Lasdon Park, and probably the playground at Reiss Park (one of the nicest in the area). If you live in Katonah or Somers you will still go to Mt Kisco for restaurants, movies, etc. No one town has everything and everyone in northern Westchester goes to a number of towns on a regular basis.
07-23-2009, 01:04 PM
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Thank you for the insight. Can you expand on how they are quite different? Are the people the same? Down to earth for the most part?
07-23-2009, 01:28 PM
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we live in somers and i would absolutely say that somers is much more down-to-earth than katonah, which is part of the town of bedford. katonah residents tend to be more arts- and environment-oriented. Houses in the village, with its Victorian appeal, command a premium.
as far as train service, most somers residents use the goldens bridge train station in neighboring lewisboro rather than the katonah station b/c while sets aside some dedicated permits for somers residents, the cost of those permits is also higher (or it was a few years ago when dh was applying for a permit).
post any other specific questions.
07-23-2009, 01:44 PM
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Thanks somersmom! I have a 4th grader and 1st grader- any commments on the schools? Will the kids be welcome additions to school as "new kids"? How is the parking at Golden's Bridge- is there availability in the morning? My DH would be taking a 6am-ish train.
07-23-2009, 03:12 PM
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I don't know that I'd call Somers that much more laid-back than Katonah. Somers does have a bit more economic diversity than Katonah, and is spread out over a much larger area.
There are many more planned subdivisions in Somers such that the area doesn't have the same anchor of a primary downtown area. Katonah, though part of the Town of Bedford, and technically a hamlet, has its own identity that is well-established. Unlike other hamlets in Westchester, Katonah functions more along the lines of a village in terms of community, without a separate legislative authority over the town.
Katonah has more of an arts community, but it's home to the Katonah Museum of Art, Caramoor, and has a great library with many events as well. Another feature of Katonah that sets it apart from some other nearby villages and towns is that it has resisted all chains within the boundaries of Katonah. The closest thing that comes to a chain store is the ancient A&P or Mrs. Green's Market, but it's a local grocer.
KMP which has the pool, tennis courts, and also has a summer day camp that can be a great resource as well. Katonah offers the train, which is a plus if you're within a few minutes' walk/drive because you can be home faster than some parts of Somers can be from Goldens Bridge. It is feasible to be within walking distance of the downtown as well, which underscores more of a small town feel to the community.
Somers is not a bad area at all, and I know people who have lived there for years, and the schools are good. Katonah has a premium attached to it for the train, Town of Bedford amenities, and the community feel of the area, even when you get into properties on larger amounts of land that are also on the BRLA trails.
07-23-2009, 03:40 PM
Location: Yorktown Heights NY
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Thank you for the insight. Can you expand on how they are quite different? Are the people the same? Down to earth for the most part?
Both towns are big, and Somers especially has a number of distinct areas, so I wouldn't want to make generalizations. That said, I think of Katonah as being a bit more cultured and slightly more down-to earth and liberal. The library hosts a long-standing poetry group with semi-regular readings run by a former National Poet Laureate. The overall gestalt is more relaxed old money, which is not a vibe I get from Somers. Somers is also one of two towns in Westchester in which a majority of people voted Republican in the last election.
If you want to live in a walkable town center, Katonah village is definitely better than anything in Somers--but if you want to be outside of town I really don't think your overall experience will be that different in either town--or other nearby ones, for that matter.
07-25-2009, 06:45 PM
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dma1250 - what is the other westchester town that voted republican last election? buchanan? whatever it is, please let me know so I can avoid it - thank you!
07-25-2009, 06:52 PM
Location: Yorktown Heights NY
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dma1250 - what is the other westchester town that voted republican last election? buchanan? whatever it is, please let me know so I can avoid it - thank you!
I believe it was Eastchester, but I could be wrong. It was definitely southern Westchester.
07-28-2009, 02:31 PM
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Thanks somersmom! I have a 4th grader and 1st grader- any commments on the schools? Will the kids be welcome additions to school as "new kids"? How is the parking at Golden's Bridge- is there availability in the morning? My DH would be taking a 6am-ish train.
i'll try answer your questions and leave the politics out of it. however, your inquiries about the schools are more emotional so i don't know if i can give you any concrete info other than to tell you that we have lived in somers for the past 6 years and have always felt absolutely welcome in the community. my child isn't in the schools yet, but all my neighbors and friends who have kids in the schools are happy with the district, the schools, the teachers, etc. Of course, there are always going to be little quibbles here and there, but nothing major.
Train station parking is by permit (Goldens Bridge and Katonah) and i'm not sure if there is a waiting list at either site. here's the link to the Goldens Bridge station info:
MTA Home Page
and here's Katonah
MTA Home Page
as you can see, they refer you to the Town of Bedford for parking info:
The Town of Bedford New York / Departments / Parking Bureau
if your DH gets a permit at Goldens Bridge, it will likely be in the lot opposite 684 by the A&P so he'd have to factor that into his timing. when my DH commuted from there, he got a 6ish train & never had a problem getting a space.
hope that helps & feel free to post any more questions!
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People in Group quarters - Crews of maritime vessels (%)
People in Group quarters - Other nonhousehold living situations (%)
People in Group quarters - Other noninstitutional group quarters (%)
Residents speaking English at home (%)
Residents speaking English at home - Born in the United States (%)
Residents speaking English at home - Native, born elsewhere (%)
Residents speaking English at home - Foreign born (%)
Residents speaking Spanish at home (%)
Residents speaking Spanish at home - Born in the United States (%)
Residents speaking Spanish at home - Native, born elsewhere (%)
Residents speaking Spanish at home - Foreign born (%)
Residents speaking other language at home (%)
Residents speaking other language at home - Born in the United States (%)
Residents speaking other language at home - Native, born elsewhere (%)
Residents speaking other language at home - Foreign born (%)
Class of Workers - Employee of private company (%)
Class of Workers - Self-employed in own incorporated business (%)
Class of Workers - Private not-for-profit wage and salary workers (%)
Class of Workers - Local government workers (%)
Class of Workers - State government workers (%)
Class of Workers - Federal government workers (%)
Class of Workers - Self-employed workers in own not incorporated business and Unpaid family workers (%)
House heating fuel used in houses and condos - Utility gas (%)
House heating fuel used in houses and condos - Bottled, tank, or LP gas (%)
House heating fuel used in houses and condos - Electricity (%)
House heating fuel used in houses and condos - Fuel oil, kerosene, etc. (%)
House heating fuel used in houses and condos - Coal or coke (%)
House heating fuel used in houses and condos - Wood (%)
House heating fuel used in houses and condos - Solar energy (%)
House heating fuel used in houses and condos - Other fuel (%)
House heating fuel used in houses and condos - No fuel used (%)
House heating fuel used in apartments - Utility gas (%)
House heating fuel used in apartments - Bottled, tank, or LP gas (%)
House heating fuel used in apartments - Electricity (%)
House heating fuel used in apartments - Fuel oil, kerosene, etc. (%)
House heating fuel used in apartments - Coal or coke (%)
House heating fuel used in apartments - Wood (%)
House heating fuel used in apartments - Solar energy (%)
House heating fuel used in apartments - Other fuel (%)
House heating fuel used in apartments - No fuel used (%)
Armed forces status - In Armed Forces (%)
Armed forces status - Civilian (%)
Armed forces status - Civilian - Veteran (%)
Armed forces status - Civilian - Nonveteran (%)
Fatal accidents locations in years 2005-2021
Fatal accidents locations in 2005
Fatal accidents locations in 2006
Fatal accidents locations in 2007
Fatal accidents locations in 2008
Fatal accidents locations in 2009
Fatal accidents locations in 2010
Fatal accidents locations in 2011
Fatal accidents locations in 2012
Fatal accidents locations in 2013
Fatal accidents locations in 2014
Fatal accidents locations in 2015
Fatal accidents locations in 2016
Fatal accidents locations in 2017
Fatal accidents locations in 2018
Fatal accidents locations in 2019
Fatal accidents locations in 2020
Fatal accidents locations in 2021
Alcohol use - People drinking some alcohol every month (%)
Alcohol use - People not drinking at all (%)
Alcohol use - Average days/month drinking alcohol
Alcohol use - Average drinks/week
Alcohol use - Average days/year people drink much
Audiometry - Average condition of hearing (%)
Audiometry - People that can hear a whisper from across a quiet room (%)
Audiometry - People that can hear normal voice from across a quiet room (%)
Audiometry - Ears ringing, roaring, buzzing (%)
Audiometry - Had a job exposure to loud noise (%)
Audiometry - Had off-work exposure to loud noise (%)
Blood Pressure & Cholesterol - Has high blood pressure (%)
Blood Pressure & Cholesterol - Checking blood pressure at home (%)
Blood Pressure & Cholesterol - Frequently checking blood cholesterol (%)
Blood Pressure & Cholesterol - Has high cholesterol level (%)
Consumer Behavior - Money monthly spent on food at supermarket/grocery store
Consumer Behavior - Money monthly spent on food at other stores
Consumer Behavior - Money monthly spent on eating out
Consumer Behavior - Money monthly spent on carryout/delivered foods
Consumer Behavior - Income spent on food at supermarket/grocery store (%)
Consumer Behavior - Income spent on food at other stores (%)
Consumer Behavior - Income spent on eating out (%)
Consumer Behavior - Income spent on carryout/delivered foods (%)
Current Health Status - General health condition (%)
Current Health Status - Blood donors (%)
Current Health Status - Has blood ever tested for HIV virus (%)
Current Health Status - Left-handed people (%)
Dermatology - People using sunscreen (%)
Diabetes - Diabetics (%)
Diabetes - Had a blood test for high blood sugar (%)
Diabetes - People taking insulin (%)
Diet Behavior & Nutrition - Diet health (%)
Diet Behavior & Nutrition - Milk product consumption (# of products/month)
Diet Behavior & Nutrition - Meals not home prepared (#/week)
Diet Behavior & Nutrition - Meals from fast food or pizza place (#/week)
Diet Behavior & Nutrition - Ready-to-eat foods (#/month)
Diet Behavior & Nutrition - Frozen meals/pizza (#/month)
Drug Use - People that ever used marijuana or hashish (%)
Drug Use - Ever used hard drugs (%)
Drug Use - Ever used any form of cocaine (%)
Drug Use - Ever used heroin (%)
Drug Use - Ever used methamphetamine (%)
Health Insurance - People covered by health insurance (%)
Kidney Conditions-Urology - Avg. # of times urinating at night
Medical Conditions - People with asthma (%)
Medical Conditions - People with anemia (%)
Medical Conditions - People with psoriasis (%)
Medical Conditions - People with overweight (%)
Medical Conditions - Elderly people having difficulties in thinking or remembering (%)
Medical Conditions - People who ever received blood transfusion (%)
Medical Conditions - People having trouble seeing even with glass/contacts (%)
Medical Conditions - People with arthritis (%)
Medical Conditions - People with gout (%)
Medical Conditions - People with congestive heart failure (%)
Medical Conditions - People with coronary heart disease (%)
Medical Conditions - People with angina pectoris (%)
Medical Conditions - People who ever had heart attack (%)
Medical Conditions - People who ever had stroke (%)
Medical Conditions - People with emphysema (%)
Medical Conditions - People with thyroid problem (%)
Medical Conditions - People with chronic bronchitis (%)
Medical Conditions - People with any liver condition (%)
Medical Conditions - People who ever had cancer or malignancy (%)
Mental Health - People who have little interest in doing things (%)
Mental Health - People feeling down, depressed, or hopeless (%)
Mental Health - People who have trouble sleeping or sleeping too much (%)
Mental Health - People feeling tired or having little energy (%)
Mental Health - People with poor appetite or overeating (%)
Mental Health - People feeling bad about themself (%)
Mental Health - People who have trouble concentrating on things (%)
Mental Health - People moving or speaking slowly or too fast (%)
Mental Health - People having thoughts they would be better off dead (%)
Oral Health - Average years since last visit a dentist
Oral Health - People embarrassed because of mouth (%)
Oral Health - People with gum disease (%)
Oral Health - General health of teeth and gums (%)
Oral Health - Average days a week using dental floss/device
Oral Health - Average days a week using mouthwash for dental problem
Oral Health - Average number of teeth
Pesticide Use - Households using pesticides to control insects (%)
Pesticide Use - Households using pesticides to kill weeds (%)
Physical Activity - People doing vigorous-intensity work activities (%)
Physical Activity - People doing moderate-intensity work activities (%)
Physical Activity - People walking or bicycling (%)
Physical Activity - People doing vigorous-intensity recreational activities (%)
Physical Activity - People doing moderate-intensity recreational activities (%)
Physical Activity - Average hours a day doing sedentary activities
Physical Activity - Average hours a day watching TV or videos
Physical Activity - Average hours a day using computer
Physical Functioning - People having limitations keeping them from working (%)
Physical Functioning - People limited in amount of work they can do (%)
Physical Functioning - People that need special equipment to walk (%)
Physical Functioning - People experiencing confusion/memory problems (%)
Physical Functioning - People requiring special healthcare equipment (%)
Prescription Medications - Average number of prescription medicines taking
Preventive Aspirin Use - Adults 40+ taking low-dose aspirin (%)
Reproductive Health - Vaginal deliveries (%)
Reproductive Health - Cesarean deliveries (%)
Reproductive Health - Deliveries resulted in a live birth (%)
Reproductive Health - Pregnancies resulted in a delivery (%)
Reproductive Health - Women breastfeeding newborns (%)
Reproductive Health - Women that had a hysterectomy (%)
Reproductive Health - Women that had both ovaries removed (%)
Reproductive Health - Women that have ever taken birth control pills (%)
Reproductive Health - Women taking birth control pills (%)
Reproductive Health - Women that have ever used Depo-Provera or injectables (%)
Reproductive Health - Women that have ever used female hormones (%)
Sexual Behavior - People 18+ that ever had sex (vaginal, anal, or oral) (%)
Sexual Behavior - Males 18+ that ever had vaginal sex with a woman (%)
Sexual Behavior - Males 18+ that ever performed oral sex on a woman (%)
Sexual Behavior - Males 18+ that ever had anal sex with a woman (%)
Sexual Behavior - Males 18+ that ever had any sex with a man (%)
Sexual Behavior - Females 18+ that ever had vaginal sex with a man (%)
Sexual Behavior - Females 18+ that ever performed oral sex on a man (%)
Sexual Behavior - Females 18+ that ever had anal sex with a man (%)
Sexual Behavior - Females 18+ that ever had any kind of sex with a woman (%)
Sexual Behavior - Average age people first had sex
Sexual Behavior - Average number of female sex partners in lifetime (males 18+)
Sexual Behavior - Average number of female vaginal sex partners in lifetime (males 18+)
Sexual Behavior - Average age people first performed oral sex on a woman (18+)
Sexual Behavior - Average number of woman performed oral sex on in lifetime (18+)
Sexual Behavior - Average number of male sex partners in lifetime (males 18+)
Sexual Behavior - Average number of male anal sex partners in lifetime (males 18+)
Sexual Behavior - Average age people first performed oral sex on a man (18+)
Sexual Behavior - Average number of male oral sex partners in lifetime (18+)
Sexual Behavior - People using protection when performing oral sex (%)
Sexual Behavior - Average number of times people have vaginal or anal sex a year
Sexual Behavior - People having sex without condom (%)
Sexual Behavior - Average number of male sex partners in lifetime (females 18+)
Sexual Behavior - Average number of male vaginal sex partners in lifetime (females 18+)
Sexual Behavior - Average number of female sex partners in lifetime (females 18+)
Sexual Behavior - Circumcised males 18+ (%)
Sleep Disorders - Average hours sleeping at night
Sleep Disorders - People that has trouble sleeping (%)
Smoking-Cigarette Use - People smoking cigarettes (%)
Taste & Smell - People 40+ having problems with smell (%)
Taste & Smell - People 40+ having problems with taste (%)
Taste & Smell - People 40+ that ever had wisdom teeth removed (%)
Taste & Smell - People 40+ that ever had tonsils teeth removed (%)
Taste & Smell - People 40+ that ever had a loss of consciousness because of a head injury (%)
Taste & Smell - People 40+ that ever had a broken nose or other serious injury to face or skull (%)
Taste & Smell - People 40+ that ever had two or more sinus infections (%)
Weight - Average height (inches)
Weight - Average weight (pounds)
Weight - Average BMI
Weight - People that are obese (%)
Weight - People that ever were obese (%)
Weight - People trying to lose weight (%)