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Old 12-31-2013, 04:50 AM
 
Location: Near the Coast SWCT
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Wow, you guys really know your stuff! First post in this forum, and I have a question: as a snow lover in Providence, how big could this be here? I want a HUGE storm, a paralysing storm of the century. What do you predict?
Welcome to the forum. Did you get hit February 2013 with one? I think the jackpot zones were a bit south of you though.

As far as this one.. Here's what NWS NY thinks for snow totals. Boston hasn't put out a map yet. You should be over 6 less than 15? We'll know better this afternoon. Keep us posted with what's happening there please. Pics are good too.

National Weather Service Forecast Office - Upton, NY

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Old 12-31-2013, 05:30 AM
 
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Snow coming down on the coastal tip of Massachusetts. They've seen snow a few times already.

The Cape Cod snow showers have developed courtesy of cold air over warm ocean water. Kind of like those old "percolator" coffee makers.

https://twitter.com/MattNoyesNECN/st...95682361126912



Here's the temps and radar. You can see the snow over the Atlantic and the capes.

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Old 12-31-2013, 07:01 AM
 
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EURO model still lagging says NWS Mt Holly, NJ. GFS has been hinting at this since last week. EURO has been horrible!

http://forecast.weather.gov/product.php?site=NWS&issuedby=PHI&product=AFD&form at=CI&version=1&glossary=0&highlight=off

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Old 12-31-2013, 07:27 AM
 
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Did you see the SREF plumes?

Point and click map for other locations with link
http://www.spc.noaa.gov/exper/sref/fplumes/index.php?YMD=20131231&RT=09&PRM=Total-SNO&SID=BDL&INC=ALL&NNC=&max=&min=&mZOOM=8&mLAT=41 .67480623093534&mLON=-72.72572124638259&mTYP=roadmap



BDL northern CT has a mean of just over 10 inches. Same for Chicopee

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Old 12-31-2013, 11:56 AM
 
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FYI ... Everything has trended downward with the amount of precip to fall. I wonder if NWS will address this in their discussions after reviewing the 12z data.

12z = 7am. So the data that got fed into the models happened around 7am. Maybe they saw that the cold air had a better grip than the moisture itself.

But I'm still expecting half foot with local higher amounts from NJ to Boston. 1/2" liquid at 15:1 ratios = 7.5 inches of snow. I don't think we'll see 1 inch liquid anywhere except maybe the capes.

Current Water Vapor. Nice stream from the Pacific and Gulf. Watch that northern Stream phase with in 2 days




GOES Composite - Northern Hemisphere Imagery - Water Vapor Loop (Flash) - Satellite Services Division/Office of Satellite Data Processing and Distribution

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Old 12-31-2013, 01:22 PM
 
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Accuweather Updated totals.

I thought would go the other way and drop them a bit. Now Most of CT in the greater than 12 range now?

If we get 2-4 inches with the first wave Thursday morning, I think 6-10" can easily fall with the main storm hence why maybe they have us 12+?

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Old 12-31-2013, 03:56 PM
 
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Nice discussion about this storm and the cold blast to follow by Bernie Rayno

Midwest,Northeast Snowstorm and Brutal Cold - AccuWeather.com
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Old 12-31-2013, 04:05 PM
 
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Here's some records.. If Islip gets 5 inches or more Thursday then they enter Top 10 biggest 1 day snow total for entire month of January on record.

Bridgeport needs 7" or more.

Hartford needs 10.3" or more

Boston needs 10.6" or more.

Most should fall before 3am so these records would happen on Thursday if it does.


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Old 12-31-2013, 04:41 PM
 
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Nice discussion about this storm and the cold blast to follow by Bernie Rayno

Midwest,Northeast Snowstorm and Brutal Cold - AccuWeather.com
TWC calling for up to a foot of snow in your neck of the woods.

Winter Storm Hercules Forecast: First Snowstorm of 2014 Targets Midwest, Northeast - weather.com Major Storm to Welcome 2014

Here's for Boston area.



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Old 12-31-2013, 05:17 PM
 
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NWS Upton mentions the American 12z model suites tomm morning will have the upper air data from the northern energy. They like 15:1 ratios. Fluffy snow

.LONG TERM /THURSDAY THROUGH TUESDAY/...

SHRTWV OVER THE HIGH TERRAIN OF WRN CANADA WILL BE THE WX DRIVER FOR
THE POTENTIAL SNOWSTORM. THIS FEATURE SHOULD REACH THE CNTRL PLAINS
AFT 12Z WED AND WILL THEN BE IN THE CONUS UPPER AIR NETWORK.

12Z MODEL SOLNS HAVE TRENDED TOWARDS THE CONSISTENT GFS IDEA OF A
STORM OUT TO SEA...WITH MODERATE SNOWS ON THE BACK SIDE IN
CONJUNCTION WITH THE H5 TROF. ALTHOUGH UNCERTAINTY REMAINS WITH
REGARD TO THE EXACT TRACK...TIMING AND INTENSITY OF THE
SYSTEM...PROB OF A 4-8 INCH SNOWFALL IS AROUND 50 PCT...THEREFORE A
WINTER STORM WATCH HAS BEEN ISSUED.

CONVERGENCE INVOF THE ARCTIC FRONT ON THU WILL RESULT IN AREAS OF
LIGHT PCPN THRU THE DAY. ALTHOUGH A COLDER SOLN IS PREFERRED DUE TO
THE AIRMASS IN PLACE...A WARM INTRUSION ALONG THE IMMEDIATE S COAST
CANNOT BE RULED OUT. AS A RESULT...BEST CHC FOR MINOR SNOW ACCUMS ON
THU ACROSS THE INTERIOR.

DEEPEST LIFT COMES THRU THU NGT INTO FRI. THIS IS THE PERIOD FOR
WHICH THE WATCH IS IN EFFECT. HEAVIEST ACCUMS MAY ACTUALLY BE SERN
LI FOR THIS EVENT..WITH THE NLY FLOW SHUNTING THE CSTL FRONT
OFFSHORE. PRES GRADIENT...ESPECIALLY ERN ZONES...LOOKS SUFFICIENT FOR
WINDS CAPABLE OF PRODUCING BLSN...WITH SUSTAINED CLOSE TO 30 MPH AT
TIMES WITH HIGHER GUSTS.

WENT WITH A GENERAL 15:1 SLR FOR THU NGT-FRI
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