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View Poll Results: Which country has a larger subtropical zone?
United States 19 26.76%
China 52 73.24%
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Old 01-31-2015, 01:33 AM
 
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I have always found it a mystery as to why China doesn't have the same huge standard deviation in temps during the winter as the Eastern US. The ingredients seem the same to me.. You have a huge pool of supremely cold air to the north with the Siberian anticyclone. Places like Verkhoyansk record the coldest temps on Earth outside Antarctica. To the south you have the relatively warm South China sea. While it isn't quite as warm as the Gulf of Mexico, it is a huge contrast to the Siberian anticyclone in winter. Yet, Southern Chinese cities don't get the huge swings of temp that you get relatively all winter long in the US South east of the Rockies. Why is that? Are it the Rockies themselves the reason as is suggested or is there more to it?
The USA's subtropical zone encompasses everything from far Southern Illinois and Southern New Jersey south to Brownsville and Orlando. South Florida has a variety of tropical climates. The USA has, collectively, a larger amount of warm climates than China does. China's combination of extremely cold arid locales and continental climates almost equals, if not surpasses it's subtropical area, and China's inland Subtropical climates are even colder and more questionably put into the category of Subtropical than many US cities, so I'm more likely to really question if all of those locations belong in the Subtropical classification. Excluding the obvious, such as Alaska, the USA's cold climates are confined to to upper-Midwest and the Northeast, and even then, their summers sort of make up for it. The USA's tropical region, while not large, is larger than China's.

Overall, the USA possesses more warm climate locations than China, and is classified by climatologists as a warm to even hot climate country. China is colder on average, regardless.
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Old 01-31-2015, 01:41 AM
 
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so what. it doesn't matter that china's subtropical and tropical zones are farther south, we are comparing the total area. whining that china is closer to the equator is like complaining that your neighbor has a nicer house than you because he has a better job.
China's lowest latitude is 19N, the US's is 18N
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Old 01-31-2015, 01:45 AM
 
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China goes much further south than the United States so I go for China based on the latitude
China is just barely further south. The USA's absolute lowest point is 18N. China's is 19N. The US has a larger tropical climate region.
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Old 01-31-2015, 12:04 PM
 
Location: Top of the South, NZ
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Overall, the USA possesses more warm climate locations than China, and is classified by climatologists as a warm to even hot climate country.
Wiki (NOAA statistics) has the lower 48 at an annual average of 11.6C/53F, which isn't that warm- even NZ can top that, with 12.9C/56F.

If Alaska had been included, the US would be a chilly country indeed.
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Old 01-31-2015, 05:59 PM
 
Location: Los Angeles
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nothing below 9b should be considered subtropical (maybe even 10a). So China
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Old 02-01-2015, 01:20 AM
 
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Wiki (NOAA statistics) has the lower 48 at an annual average of 11.6C/53F, which isn't that warm- even NZ can top that, with 12.9C/56F.

If Alaska had been included, the US would be a chilly country indeed.
Which part of the US is chilly Joe? You live in a tiny country. We don't.

The US is far far larger than tiny NZ. 3.8 million square miles vs 103K sq miles. Florida, Georgia and Alabama have avg annual temps of 70.7F, 63.5F, and 62.8F well above NZ so there. And this is 1971-2000 temperature data. Land area of those three states is 177,599 sq miles which is well above NZ.

Heck Texas with an avg annual temp of 64.8F (1971-2000) and a land area of 269,000 sq miles is far larger than your little island country at 53F and a land area of 103,483sq miles.
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Old 02-01-2015, 01:57 AM
 
Location: Top of the South, NZ
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Which part of the US is chilly Joe? You live in a tiny country. We don't.

The US is far far larger than tiny NZ. 3.8 million square miles vs 103K sq miles. Florida, Georgia and Alabama have avg annual temps of 70.7F, 63.5F, and 62.8F well above NZ so there. And this is 1971-2000 temperature data. Land area of those three states is 177,599 sq miles which is well above NZ.

Heck Texas with an avg annual temp of 64.8F (1971-2000) and a land area of 269,000 sq miles is far larger than your little island country at 53F and a land area of 103,483sq miles.
Not sure what your point is. I'm just responding to the comment that the US ( all of it that is) is a warm to hot climate country -my reply is relevant to that.
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Old 02-01-2015, 03:47 AM
 
Location: Leeds, UK
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I think Tom felt a little insecure, so felt that he needed to put New Zealand down.
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Old 02-01-2015, 04:19 AM
 
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11.6C is colder than i thought. France would comfortably beat that.
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Old 02-01-2015, 11:23 AM
 
Location: Top of the South, NZ
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I think Tom felt a little insecure, so felt that he needed to put New Zealand down.
Yes, a bee in the bonnet about something.

I guess I could say that the lower 48 has a warmer average temp than NZ, if that would help.
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