01-15-2020, 06:36 AM
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My wife and I are ready to retire next year and Washington has been on our radar. We love cool rainy weather and have visited the state many times. We are looking for a safe area fairly close to stores with home prices $400,000 or less. We are looking at the Camas area both the house prices have gone way up the last 12 months. Any suggestions would be appreciated. We are planning to visit the area in March.
01-15-2020, 10:13 AM
Location: Rochester, WA
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You actually have lots of good places to choose from with that budget. Help us by painting a picture of what you might like. Talk more about "fairly close to stores".
For some that might mean one good grocery store in town... for others, that might mean a shopping district with a Costco, a Walmart, or a Mall.
How big a home? New or vintage? Farm house on acreage in the country or craftsman in a cul-de-sac?
Do you like a view, or water or trees or hills or flat? Do you need to be able to get out in winter or can you hunker down during occasional winter storms?
01-15-2020, 01:38 PM
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Great questions, thanks. My wife definately likes to shop at Walmart and Costco but driving to get there would not be a problem. Walmart over Costco. Mid size home is fine, around 1,700 SF or less would be fine since it is just my wife and I. We are currently living in a townhouse and do not want a shared wall again and want more privacy. Closer to new than vintage and a privacy yard over acreage. View would be nice but not necessary. We also do not mind hunkering down during a winter storm since we will both be retired. I like the idea of Camas becasue of the proximity to both trees and Portland Airport for travel. We have also been all around Kitsap Peninsula and that is appealing. Gig Harbor seems out of our price range but maybe Port Orchard, Poulsbo or parts of Bremerton. We have also looked online around the Olympia area and Tumwater. We loved Sequim but I think the prices have gotten too high based on how far away it is from airports and major medical.
01-15-2020, 03:14 PM
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Yes I've been posting about SW Washington every now and then. I like Skamokawa- great park but South Bend , Cathlamet and the rest are also nice. Long Beach is more expensive.
01-15-2020, 04:24 PM
Location: Independent Republic of Ballard
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https://www.zillow.com/homedetails/8...83065697_zpid/
$195k, Grayland, 3bd/2ba, 1.4k/sf, private beach easement, fenced back yard, 2-car detached garage.
https://www.zillow.com/homedetails/2...55080741_zpid/
$239k, Copalis Beach, 3bd/2ba, 1.2k/sf, close to beach, covered patio, fire pit, fenced backyard, guest cottage/art studio.
Walmart Supercenter in Aberdeen. Nearest Costco in Tumwater (Olympia).
01-15-2020, 07:45 PM
Location: Vancouver, WA
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We live near Camas in eastern Vanvcouver. I would recommend looking at the neighborhoods around that general area for better affordability. The problem with Camas for retirees is that you're payer higher costs in the form of both prices and property taxes for their schools. Yet without school aged kids, you're basically overpaying for services you'll never use.
Take a look at these other communities such as Fishers Landing, Cascade Park East and West, Mill Plain, Hockinson, Salmon Creek, etc... There really are lots of other options to get more bang for your buck nearby. Here are a few:
https://www.zillow.com/homedetails/7...23299967_zpid/
https://www.zillow.com/homedetails/2...23251835_zpid/
https://www.zillow.com/homedetails/9...0945515_zpid/?
https://www.zillow.com/homedetails/8...83419030_zpid/
https://www.zillow.com/homedetails/2...58232924_zpid/
https://www.zillow.com/homedetails/1...82107557_zpid/
https://www.zillow.com/homedetails/9...3288682_zpid/?
Derek
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01-16-2020, 01:35 AM
Location: We_tside PNW (Columbia Gorge) / CO / SA TX / Thailand
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What is your desired type of home and neighborhood? (Age of home and size of lot)
There are plenty of affordable options between Peace Health Hospital and the Costco on 192nd ave. Especially if you are OK with 'smaller' footprint.
There will be some bargains when the market readjusts.
I like places near;
Ft Vancouver Historic Park (Crosley Bowl) (Walkable to Marshall Center, Fred Meyer, Transit, Clark College, Library, Downtown Vancouver, Waterfront). If I had to live in town, I would get on the wait list for leases at Vancouver Historic Trust (Officers Row), https://www.historictrustproperties....ntial-leasing/ Propstra Aquatics Center
David Douglas Park
We lived very near Evergreen Memorial Gardens when we arrived in Vancouver. It was very handy, but now has noise of I-205, (and a rare landing pattern to PDX (~5 days / yr)). Sis lived next to Hearthwood elementary. Several friends live near Fisher Elementary, and many retirees love Vista Del Rio (Handicap accessible MHP) There is also the option of Fairway Village. Being walking distance to Fisher Transit would be pretty nice when older (Shuttle to Portland, / MAX / and Columbia Gorge.)
A smaller subdivision with medium priced homes near Costco / Camas is on Jackson Loop
Lots of choices and places to look...
I try to NEVER buy something that is listed FS, I prefer to dig up my own deals BEFORE the vultures arrive.
It is very easy to do here. (beats sitting in the courthouse for weeks at a time) BTDT for many yrs.
https://gis.clark.wa.gov/gishome/?pid=menu
01-16-2020, 04:56 AM
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Great information. Thanks. I was thinking the same about Camas. Paying a premium for schools but It also helps resale value if we want to sell one day. Our search is just beginning. We will definitely check out the area outside of Camas.
01-16-2020, 05:14 AM
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Thanks StealthRabbit. I never considered buying commercial but my wife has. I will have her look into this. I checked out the properties outside of Camas and the prices are much lower. Will check these areas out in March.
01-16-2020, 04:48 PM
Location: Embarrassing, WA
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I'd like to point out that I don't believe that you really save anything by retiring to "income tax free" Washington, mainly due to housing costs and property taxes. Not trying to dissuade your potential move here, but a lot of people that have moved here from the Midwest to retire have found it much more expensive than the lower housing costs and state income tax where they came from. That aside, if you "love the cool rainy weather" sounds like we have a match lol
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Residents speaking Spanish at home (%)
Residents speaking Spanish at home - Born in the United States (%)
Residents speaking Spanish at home - Native, born elsewhere (%)
Residents speaking Spanish at home - Foreign born (%)
Residents speaking other language at home (%)
Residents speaking other language at home - Born in the United States (%)
Residents speaking other language at home - Native, born elsewhere (%)
Residents speaking other language at home - Foreign born (%)
Class of Workers - Employee of private company (%)
Class of Workers - Self-employed in own incorporated business (%)
Class of Workers - Private not-for-profit wage and salary workers (%)
Class of Workers - Local government workers (%)
Class of Workers - State government workers (%)
Class of Workers - Federal government workers (%)
Class of Workers - Self-employed workers in own not incorporated business and Unpaid family workers (%)
House heating fuel used in houses and condos - Utility gas (%)
House heating fuel used in houses and condos - Bottled, tank, or LP gas (%)
House heating fuel used in houses and condos - Electricity (%)
House heating fuel used in houses and condos - Fuel oil, kerosene, etc. (%)
House heating fuel used in houses and condos - Coal or coke (%)
House heating fuel used in houses and condos - Wood (%)
House heating fuel used in houses and condos - Solar energy (%)
House heating fuel used in houses and condos - Other fuel (%)
House heating fuel used in houses and condos - No fuel used (%)
House heating fuel used in apartments - Utility gas (%)
House heating fuel used in apartments - Bottled, tank, or LP gas (%)
House heating fuel used in apartments - Electricity (%)
House heating fuel used in apartments - Fuel oil, kerosene, etc. (%)
House heating fuel used in apartments - Coal or coke (%)
House heating fuel used in apartments - Wood (%)
House heating fuel used in apartments - Solar energy (%)
House heating fuel used in apartments - Other fuel (%)
House heating fuel used in apartments - No fuel used (%)
Armed forces status - In Armed Forces (%)
Armed forces status - Civilian (%)
Armed forces status - Civilian - Veteran (%)
Armed forces status - Civilian - Nonveteran (%)
Fatal accidents locations in years 2005-2021
Fatal accidents locations in 2005
Fatal accidents locations in 2006
Fatal accidents locations in 2007
Fatal accidents locations in 2008
Fatal accidents locations in 2009
Fatal accidents locations in 2010
Fatal accidents locations in 2011
Fatal accidents locations in 2012
Fatal accidents locations in 2013
Fatal accidents locations in 2014
Fatal accidents locations in 2015
Fatal accidents locations in 2016
Fatal accidents locations in 2017
Fatal accidents locations in 2018
Fatal accidents locations in 2019
Fatal accidents locations in 2020
Fatal accidents locations in 2021
Alcohol use - People drinking some alcohol every month (%)
Alcohol use - People not drinking at all (%)
Alcohol use - Average days/month drinking alcohol
Alcohol use - Average drinks/week
Alcohol use - Average days/year people drink much
Audiometry - Average condition of hearing (%)
Audiometry - People that can hear a whisper from across a quiet room (%)
Audiometry - People that can hear normal voice from across a quiet room (%)
Audiometry - Ears ringing, roaring, buzzing (%)
Audiometry - Had a job exposure to loud noise (%)
Audiometry - Had off-work exposure to loud noise (%)
Blood Pressure & Cholesterol - Has high blood pressure (%)
Blood Pressure & Cholesterol - Checking blood pressure at home (%)
Blood Pressure & Cholesterol - Frequently checking blood cholesterol (%)
Blood Pressure & Cholesterol - Has high cholesterol level (%)
Consumer Behavior - Money monthly spent on food at supermarket/grocery store
Consumer Behavior - Money monthly spent on food at other stores
Consumer Behavior - Money monthly spent on eating out
Consumer Behavior - Money monthly spent on carryout/delivered foods
Consumer Behavior - Income spent on food at supermarket/grocery store (%)
Consumer Behavior - Income spent on food at other stores (%)
Consumer Behavior - Income spent on eating out (%)
Consumer Behavior - Income spent on carryout/delivered foods (%)
Current Health Status - General health condition (%)
Current Health Status - Blood donors (%)
Current Health Status - Has blood ever tested for HIV virus (%)
Current Health Status - Left-handed people (%)
Dermatology - People using sunscreen (%)
Diabetes - Diabetics (%)
Diabetes - Had a blood test for high blood sugar (%)
Diabetes - People taking insulin (%)
Diet Behavior & Nutrition - Diet health (%)
Diet Behavior & Nutrition - Milk product consumption (# of products/month)
Diet Behavior & Nutrition - Meals not home prepared (#/week)
Diet Behavior & Nutrition - Meals from fast food or pizza place (#/week)
Diet Behavior & Nutrition - Ready-to-eat foods (#/month)
Diet Behavior & Nutrition - Frozen meals/pizza (#/month)
Drug Use - People that ever used marijuana or hashish (%)
Drug Use - Ever used hard drugs (%)
Drug Use - Ever used any form of cocaine (%)
Drug Use - Ever used heroin (%)
Drug Use - Ever used methamphetamine (%)
Health Insurance - People covered by health insurance (%)
Kidney Conditions-Urology - Avg. # of times urinating at night
Medical Conditions - People with asthma (%)
Medical Conditions - People with anemia (%)
Medical Conditions - People with psoriasis (%)
Medical Conditions - People with overweight (%)
Medical Conditions - Elderly people having difficulties in thinking or remembering (%)
Medical Conditions - People who ever received blood transfusion (%)
Medical Conditions - People having trouble seeing even with glass/contacts (%)
Medical Conditions - People with arthritis (%)
Medical Conditions - People with gout (%)
Medical Conditions - People with congestive heart failure (%)
Medical Conditions - People with coronary heart disease (%)
Medical Conditions - People with angina pectoris (%)
Medical Conditions - People who ever had heart attack (%)
Medical Conditions - People who ever had stroke (%)
Medical Conditions - People with emphysema (%)
Medical Conditions - People with thyroid problem (%)
Medical Conditions - People with chronic bronchitis (%)
Medical Conditions - People with any liver condition (%)
Medical Conditions - People who ever had cancer or malignancy (%)
Mental Health - People who have little interest in doing things (%)
Mental Health - People feeling down, depressed, or hopeless (%)
Mental Health - People who have trouble sleeping or sleeping too much (%)
Mental Health - People feeling tired or having little energy (%)
Mental Health - People with poor appetite or overeating (%)
Mental Health - People feeling bad about themself (%)
Mental Health - People who have trouble concentrating on things (%)
Mental Health - People moving or speaking slowly or too fast (%)
Mental Health - People having thoughts they would be better off dead (%)
Oral Health - Average years since last visit a dentist
Oral Health - People embarrassed because of mouth (%)
Oral Health - People with gum disease (%)
Oral Health - General health of teeth and gums (%)
Oral Health - Average days a week using dental floss/device
Oral Health - Average days a week using mouthwash for dental problem
Oral Health - Average number of teeth
Pesticide Use - Households using pesticides to control insects (%)
Pesticide Use - Households using pesticides to kill weeds (%)
Physical Activity - People doing vigorous-intensity work activities (%)
Physical Activity - People doing moderate-intensity work activities (%)
Physical Activity - People walking or bicycling (%)
Physical Activity - People doing vigorous-intensity recreational activities (%)
Physical Activity - People doing moderate-intensity recreational activities (%)
Physical Activity - Average hours a day doing sedentary activities
Physical Activity - Average hours a day watching TV or videos
Physical Activity - Average hours a day using computer
Physical Functioning - People having limitations keeping them from working (%)
Physical Functioning - People limited in amount of work they can do (%)
Physical Functioning - People that need special equipment to walk (%)
Physical Functioning - People experiencing confusion/memory problems (%)
Physical Functioning - People requiring special healthcare equipment (%)
Prescription Medications - Average number of prescription medicines taking
Preventive Aspirin Use - Adults 40+ taking low-dose aspirin (%)
Reproductive Health - Vaginal deliveries (%)
Reproductive Health - Cesarean deliveries (%)
Reproductive Health - Deliveries resulted in a live birth (%)
Reproductive Health - Pregnancies resulted in a delivery (%)
Reproductive Health - Women breastfeeding newborns (%)
Reproductive Health - Women that had a hysterectomy (%)
Reproductive Health - Women that had both ovaries removed (%)
Reproductive Health - Women that have ever taken birth control pills (%)
Reproductive Health - Women taking birth control pills (%)
Reproductive Health - Women that have ever used Depo-Provera or injectables (%)
Reproductive Health - Women that have ever used female hormones (%)
Sexual Behavior - People 18+ that ever had sex (vaginal, anal, or oral) (%)
Sexual Behavior - Males 18+ that ever had vaginal sex with a woman (%)
Sexual Behavior - Males 18+ that ever performed oral sex on a woman (%)
Sexual Behavior - Males 18+ that ever had anal sex with a woman (%)
Sexual Behavior - Males 18+ that ever had any sex with a man (%)
Sexual Behavior - Females 18+ that ever had vaginal sex with a man (%)
Sexual Behavior - Females 18+ that ever performed oral sex on a man (%)
Sexual Behavior - Females 18+ that ever had anal sex with a man (%)
Sexual Behavior - Females 18+ that ever had any kind of sex with a woman (%)
Sexual Behavior - Average age people first had sex
Sexual Behavior - Average number of female sex partners in lifetime (males 18+)
Sexual Behavior - Average number of female vaginal sex partners in lifetime (males 18+)
Sexual Behavior - Average age people first performed oral sex on a woman (18+)
Sexual Behavior - Average number of woman performed oral sex on in lifetime (18+)
Sexual Behavior - Average number of male sex partners in lifetime (males 18+)
Sexual Behavior - Average number of male anal sex partners in lifetime (males 18+)
Sexual Behavior - Average age people first performed oral sex on a man (18+)
Sexual Behavior - Average number of male oral sex partners in lifetime (18+)
Sexual Behavior - People using protection when performing oral sex (%)
Sexual Behavior - Average number of times people have vaginal or anal sex a year
Sexual Behavior - People having sex without condom (%)
Sexual Behavior - Average number of male sex partners in lifetime (females 18+)
Sexual Behavior - Average number of male vaginal sex partners in lifetime (females 18+)
Sexual Behavior - Average number of female sex partners in lifetime (females 18+)
Sexual Behavior - Circumcised males 18+ (%)
Sleep Disorders - Average hours sleeping at night
Sleep Disorders - People that has trouble sleeping (%)
Smoking-Cigarette Use - People smoking cigarettes (%)
Taste & Smell - People 40+ having problems with smell (%)
Taste & Smell - People 40+ having problems with taste (%)
Taste & Smell - People 40+ that ever had wisdom teeth removed (%)
Taste & Smell - People 40+ that ever had tonsils teeth removed (%)
Taste & Smell - People 40+ that ever had a loss of consciousness because of a head injury (%)
Taste & Smell - People 40+ that ever had a broken nose or other serious injury to face or skull (%)
Taste & Smell - People 40+ that ever had two or more sinus infections (%)
Weight - Average height (inches)
Weight - Average weight (pounds)
Weight - Average BMI
Weight - People that are obese (%)
Weight - People that ever were obese (%)
Weight - People trying to lose weight (%)
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