Why the Hate for Oregon ? (Seattle, Spokane: sale, buying, income)

[texasdiver]

Originally Posted by NJBest

I'm not convinced that 999 out of 1000 Washington state residents are tax-evading criminals...

Not what I said.

What I said was that I bet only 1 out of a thousand Washingtonians who SHOP in Oregon actually voluntarily send in the sales tax payment to the Washington Department of Revenue for goods that they bought in Oregon and paid no sales tax.

[xPlorer48]

As a native Washingtonian going back 5 generations, I love Oregon. The eastern part has so many more interesting places and your coast is way more accessible. You have fewer people and your drivers seem more polite other than the elder drivers on the coast who tend to pull out in front of you or make a left turn all at the last moment. Your housing is less expensive and you don't have any sales tax. Yep, a great state!

[PS90]

Originally Posted by clikrf8

As a native Washingtonian going back 5 generations, I love Oregon. The eastern part has so many more interesting places and your coast is way more accessible. You have fewer people and your drivers seem more polite other than the elder drivers on the coast who tend to pull out in front of you or make a left turn all at the last moment. Your housing is less expensive and you don't have any sales tax. Yep, a great state!

I have to disagree with this. When I did live in Centralia, all the locals that I knew had a kind-of ongoing game when driving on I-5 (in Washington): if a really crappy driver was spotted - speeding, tailgating, weaving across lanes, etc. - bets would be taken on the chances that driver was from OR before anyone got close enough to see the license plates. It was amazing how often it was true.

[elkotronics]

On the other hand, Washington has so many drivers going so many places and thinking they have to get everyplace so fast (even if they think they're better drivers than Oregon drivers) that they're smooshing and stifling most normal driver's chances of enjoying their western Washington drive.

This does not apply to eastern Washington, although some of these hicks are fairly Richard Petty-driven in their own way, too. Because, after all, Seattle and Washington are more important than these Oregon-type states, right?

[PS90]

Originally Posted by elkotronics

On the other hand, Washington has so many drivers going so many places and thinking they have to get everyplace so fast (even if they think they're better drivers than Oregon drivers) that they're smooshing and stifling most normal driver's chances of enjoying their western Washington drive.

This does not apply to eastern Washington, although some of these hicks are fairly Richard Petty-driven in their own way, too. Because, after all, Seattle and Washington are more important than these Oregon-type states, right?

The difference between Western WA drivers and Eastern WA drivers is that in Western WA, everyone has to get there first, leading to drivers weaving in-and-out of traffic, cutting people off, etc., while the hicks in Eastern WA aren't in quite the hurry, but they just don't know what a stop light or turn signal mean...

[elkotronics]

The difference between Western WA drivers and Eastern WA drivers is that in Western WA, everyone has to get there first, leading to drivers weaving in-and-out of traffic, cutting people off, etc., while the hicks in Eastern WA aren't in quite the hurry, but they just don't know what a stop light or turn signal mean...

PS90 - I have noted that in most places in America not only do people not use a turn signal any more, even on the interstate, but 4-way stops are getting more and more comical because the rules for who goes first must be difficult for them to understand or something. So usually someone just guns it and goes come hell or high water.

It's the person who gets there first that goes first. Or, if it's a tie or even close, it's the person on the right. If it's two cars directly across from each other at the 4-way stop, it's whoever got there first. If it's a tie the old hand-wave can work. Notice I said can work.

And what's this thing on my steering column that makes this green arrow flash on and off on my dashscreen, anyway? I'm supposed ta signal when I change lanes? Huh? No way! Or they're just too lazy to turn it on. Or, and this was one explanation about the disappearing use of the turn signal, people don't want to signal because the L.A. drivers view the turn signal flashing as competition and close the gap so fast that was there that the person signaling actually avoids turning it on anymore. Good old Richard Petty driving made famous in So-Cal. I like it when these reasons people give make a semblance of sense rather than just the same old cheeseburger-fries-Coke fat and lazy American reason for being too lazy ta turn one's turn signal on anymore.

[Mr.Hospitality]

Originally Posted by texasdiver

Not what I said.

What I said was that I bet only 1 out of a thousand Washingtonians who SHOP in Oregon actually voluntarily send in the sales tax payment to the Washington Department of Revenue for goods that they bought in Oregon and paid no sales tax.

Where it gets interesting is how many people shop online and don't pay their taxes on those purchases. Those numbers are much higher than how many go to Oregon to evade taxes. The reality is that there's a lot of dirty criminals out there. Some who drive across borders like Hemlock140, and others that do it all from home.

[PS90]

Originally Posted by Mr.Hospitality

Where it gets interesting is how many people shop online and don't pay their taxes on those purchases. Those numbers are much higher than how many go to Oregon to evade taxes. The reality is that there's a lot of dirty criminals out there. Some who drive across borders like Hemlock140, and others that do it all from home.

I'm assuming that you're being sarcastic, although it's hard to tell on these forums sometimes. Although the use tax had been around for a while, I would be shocked if ANYONE pays it, the DOR certainly has no means to enforce it, and, I'm not an attorney, but I don't think that failing to pay the use tax is a criminal act, just as receiving a speeding ticket is not a criminal act, and the RCW is vague on what goods require the use tax and what doesn't.

Again, hopefully you're being sarcastic. If not, it might be time to lighten up a little.

[Seacove]

Originally Posted by Mr.Hospitality

Where it gets interesting is how many people shop online and don't pay their taxes on those purchases. Those numbers are much higher than how many go to Oregon to evade taxes. The reality is that there's a lot of dirty criminals out there. Some who drive across borders like Hemlock140, and others that do it all from home.

You do know that we pay sales tax for Amazon, right? There are other retailers of course but most have a presence in Washington State, so we still pay online sales taxes.

[tickyul]

I don't hate Oregon....but I find it VERY weird and communistic.

Driving through Oregon, I do my best to enter with a full tank of gas......so I do not have to stop.