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Ok, SweethomeSanAntonio I think im done with our conversation....You think that San Antonio, and Austin will be in the same CSA within a time period worth talking about ....wrong. Houston's CSA is primarily populated by HOUSTON, and Houston's CSA is populated primarily through Harris County, but the outlying counties which are MUCH denser than the San Antonio - Austin corridor (which is not a CSA, nor will it be in the near future) are inclusive of the CSA. Your facts are all wrong too ie: "The Woodlands is in Harris County" ...lol...WRONG! I have a rental property in The Woodlands and it's Montgomery County my friend. Even Spring which is south of The Woodlands splits the Montgomery\Harris county lines. Fort Bend County which doesn't even have separation in city bounds is over 1/2 a million people now, even Montgomery County is approaching that rapidly and two others over a 1/4 million. Also just to break it down for you there is statistical data for the Houston MSA and not only the CSA. The MSA is 5.6million as you stated, not the CSA. The difference is the CSA includes Matagorda County, and Walker County and is 5.8million. So your CSA theory is also out the window. So if you wanna compare apples to apples go ahead. Houston's MSA <---not CSA, is WAY larger, and has MANY more miles of LARGE freeways unlike the San Antonio MSA. Btw...just to let you know I am a resigned statician who still conducts statistical gathering with the US Census Bureau, and Metrodata meaning all this info your using is what I do for a living. Btw...if you feel like creating a thread called "Which MSA Houston or San Antonio has the largest number of freeways, and largest freeways in size" go right ahead....at least then you can spread the joy of laughter to your argument.
Oh! btw...you may want to re-read the thread you are posting in as well. The OP posted "Cities with the biggest freeways, most freeway lanes" so your argument from square one was all wrong anyway....
San Antonio and Austin are already a designated corridor, commuter rail in the near future. The signs are there, it may be 15 years from now, but it's bound to happen. You are right, The Houston MSA is 5.6 million, and the CSA is 5.73 million. The only point i'm getting at is how the S.A-Austin corridor, (3.8 million pop) would be a better comparison in territory size, even if they are not technically a CSA, yet. Anyhow I think it will happen by 2030.
Why do you keep insisting that I am comparing Houston number of lanes, I know the freeways are bigger in Htown. They may be more comprable in total freeway miles. Thats about it.
Im not insisting anything, im replying to the topic of the thread which is "Biggest freeways \ most freeway lanes, and therefore place Houston out of San Antonio's league. Where are you comming up with freeway miles in that topic? I also am comparing the Houston MSA, and the San Antonio MSA freeway miles in order to satisfy your off topic conversation which is still less than the Houston MSA. Im confused with any topic that you would have to compare San Antonio's MSA with the likes of Houston's. The only argument you would have is "miles of freeway" within strictly the city limits of the two that are State or Federaly funded counting out tollways which are freeways, but that can't be what your talking about because in your original quote to me you labeled San Antonio with a population of 2.1million which is not city limits, but rather the San Antonio MSA. As for the "San Antonio - Austin Corridor" which basically means nothing for a long time in terms of an adjoined area I have no idea where that would fit into this conversation, well at least for many years of at which time Houston would probably include the "Golden Triangle Region by", and is not comparable by any means as of today other than "imagination". The argument that Houston's MSA is not comparable to San Antonio's because of square mileage is invalid. Houston's MSA consists of 10 counties, and San Antonio's consists of 8, very comparable other than the fact that San Antonio just has alot of catching up to do.
I-5 in the seattle metro area has a alot of lanes, for about a 2-3 mile stretch in south seattle/tukwila theres about 9 lanes going each way. also north of downtown seattle its normally 5 lanes, but depending on which way the majority of traffic is going they open up the express lanes which adds 4 more lanes, so it grows to 9 lanes.
but other than that it averages around 5 lanes in the metro area. also, in tacoma, between the tacoma dome and the tacoma mall they re-did the road so it's about 8 lanes each way.
oh and i forgot I-90 east of bellevue has about 6 or 7 lanes going each way for a few miles. and I-405 has about 5 or 6 lanes in certain areas.
Im not insisting anything, im replying to the topic of the thread which is "Biggest freeways \ most freeway lanes, and therefore place Houston out of San Antonio's league. Where are you comming up with freeway miles in that topic? I also am comparing the Houston MSA, and the San Antonio MSA freeway miles in order to satisfy your off topic conversation which is still less than the Houston MSA. Im confused with any topic that you would have to compare San Antonio's MSA with the likes of Houston's. The only argument you would have is "miles of freeway" within strictly the city limits of the two that are State or Federaly funded counting out tollways which are freeways, but that can't be what your talking about because in your original quote to me you labeled San Antonio with a population of 2.1million which is not city limits, but rather the San Antonio MSA. As for the "San Antonio - Austin Corridor" which basically means nothing for a long time in terms of an adjoined area I have no idea where that would fit into this conversation, well at least for many years of at which time Houston would probably include the "Golden Triangle Region by", and is not comparable by any means as of today other than "imagination". The argument that Houston's MSA is not comparable to San Antonio's because of square mileage is invalid. Houston's MSA consists of 10 counties, and San Antonio's consists of 8, very comparable other than the fact that San Antonio just has alot of catching up to do.
Regardless if it's a lil off topic, freeway miles, it's still regarding freeways. San Antonio has a very extensive freeway system, built for a metro the size of Houston. I don't agree when you say San Antonio freeways arent in the same league, because they are. They might not have as much traffic or HOV lanes, or, toll ways, etc.
I can say the same about your mention of metro population. You thought it was a great example why you feel Houston has superior or larger freeways. I brought up the sheer size of S.A's as my example.
Anyhow the center of population is in south central Texas, which is the San Antonio-Austin corridor. The counties to the south of San Antonio are not dense, the high population growth is in the corridor. The nearly 3.8 million people are mostly concentrated within the 6 connecting counties along I-35, in a area much smaller than Houston's 10 county metro. Houston definitely bigger, but, doesn't dwarf the area, the way you make it sound.
Regardless if it's a lil off topic, freeway miles, it's still regarding freeways. San Antonio has a very extensive freeway system, built for a metro the size of Houston. I don't agree when you say San Antonio freeways arent in the same league, because they are. They might not have as much traffic or HOV lanes, or, toll ways, etc.
I can say the same about your mention of metro population. You thought it was a great example why you feel Houston has superior or larger freeways. I brought up the sheer size of S.A's as my example.
Anyhow the center of population is in south central Texas, which is the San Antonio-Austin corridor. The counties to the south of San Antonio are not dense, the high population growth is in the corridor. The nearly 3.8 million people are mostly concentrated within the 6 connecting counties along I-35, in a area much smaller than Houston's 10 county metro. Houston definitely bigger, but, doesn't dwarf the area, the way you make it sound.
Umm...the Houston MSA does dwarf the San Antonio MSA..... I've said what I have to say and everthing I've said is based on facts. I also gave you clearly stated examples of your inconsistant statements. Once again Austin - San Antonio is not a usable example, and will not be for half a lifetime. I think it's obvious that you can't except that you have no argument so I will decline to have this conversation any further for it is a waste of my time. Feel free to let others know that San Antonio is your choice....lol.
Umm...the Houston MSA does dwarf the San Antonio MSA..... I've said what I have to say and everthing I've said is based on facts. I also gave you clearly stated examples of your inconsistant statements. Once again Austin - San Antonio is not a usable example, and will not be for half a lifetime. I think it's obvious that you can't except that you have no argument so I will decline to have this conversation any further for it is a waste of my time. Feel free to let others know that San Antonio is your choice....lol.
I know the Houston MSA is much larger than S.A. MSA, but, thats not what i'm comparing. I'm comparing it to the Corridor population. Thats where the people are, It may not be a fact right now or designated CSA, but it will eventually be something on that lines one day. Saying it wont happen in our lifetime, half or whatever, is being close minded.
The two cities are more tied together than you think.
It's the next great Metroplex. It may take 20 years, but it's coming.
Miami counts 110 miles of coastline in their Metro, San Antonio, New Braunfels, San Marcos and Austin would be less than that. Right now there is about 250k to 300k people between San Antonio and Austin, just think when that reaches 1 million. New Braunfels and San Marcos are growing very fast.
The facts
*Houston larger metro than S.A.
*San Antonio-Austin Corridor one day a CSA.
* San Antonio and Houston comprable in overall size of freeway network, in terms of freeway miles.
San Diego has some massive freeways where there are two in one, basically. So you have 2 sections going one way and 2 going the opposite way. Basically its a freeway with an expressway in the center of the two directions but the express is composed of 2 lanes each, while the freeway itself is made of 5 lanes each direction; giving a total of about 14 lanes in one massive road.
L.A. freeways:
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I Know what you are talking about I Went to San Diego last Summer and i was on the I-15 South Coming from Temecula and they were constructing ExpressLanes or Toll Lanes on both side of the Freeway.
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....wrong. Houston's CSA is primarily populated by HOUSTON, and Houston's CSA is populated primarily through Harris County, but the outlying counties which are MUCH denser than the San Antonio - Austin corridor (which is not a CSA, nor will it be in the near future) are inclusive of the CSA. Your facts are all wrong too ie: "The Woodlands is in Harris County" 
Houston's MSA <---not CSA, is WAY larger, and has MANY more miles of LARGE freeways unlike the San Antonio MSA. Btw...just to let you know I am a resigned statician who still conducts statistical gathering with the US Census Bureau, and Metrodata meaning all this info your using is what I do for a living. Btw...if you feel like creating a thread called "Which MSA Houston or San Antonio has the largest number of freeways, and largest freeways in size" go right ahead....at least then you can spread the joy of laughter to your argument. 
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