Urban Neighborhoods in Not so Urban Cities (metro, suburban, crime)
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I don't think some of these cities fit what the OP is looking for. It seems a bit of a stretch Providence and Pittsburgh to be called not so urban, unless you think only the biggest cities in the countries are urban. I suppose they contain large sections that don't feel very urban but still, I'd imagine large sections of those cities are rather dense. Pittsburgh is #11 in public transit usage amongst american cities and Providence isn't bad either, so they're not really car-focused.
The places Nexis4Jersey mentioned are all small cities in the NYC or Philly Metros which tend to be old and with walkable centers, so I guess they fit. All of them have good train service to them, too. But Chester, PA is a bit of a ghetto.
Most of the small cities in Western Massachusetts have walkable centers but not all of the city is walkable.
They're a bit on the small side to feel that city-like and they can get rural quickly. But their populations are at least the population of Northfield, MN so I guess I can put them here.
Northampton, Greenfield, Easthampton and Westfield all have nice, walkable centers. Holyoke does too, and is larger, but it is rather run down. Nice old buildings though but has some crime problems.
Many towns in eastern Mass and the older Boston suburbs (newton, salem) could fit, too.
I don't think some of these cities fit what the OP is looking for. It seems a bit of a stretch Providence and Pittsburgh to be called not so urban, unless you think only the biggest cities in the countries are urban. I suppose they contain large sections that don't feel very urban but still, I'd imagine large sections of those cities are rather dense. Pittsburgh is #11 in public transit usage amongst american cities and Providence isn't bad either, so they're not really car-focused.
The places Nexis4Jersey mentioned are all small cities in the NYC or Philly Metros which tend to be old and with walkable centers, so I guess they fit. All of them have good train service to them, too. But Chester, PA is a bit of a ghetto.
I'm sorry, but Pittsburgh has become a mid-size city (pop. 311,647) along the lines of Toledo, Ohio (316,851) and Corpus Christi, Texas (285,507), albeit with quite a few dense urban-residential areas, a good public transportation system, and lots of sprawl creating a big metropolitan area. Now Fort Worth, that's become a pretty big city (pop. 727,575). But it only has one dense urban area - downtown - and not many people use public transit because they work all over the Metroplex.
I'm sorry, but Pittsburgh has become a mid-size city (pop. 311,647) along the lines of Toledo, Ohio (316,851) and Corpus Christi, Texas (285,507), albeit with quite a few dense urban-residential areas, a good public transportation system, and lots of sprawl creating a big metropolitan area. Now Fort Worth, that's become a pretty big city (pop. 727,575). But it only has one dense urban area - downtown - and not many people use public transit because they work all over the Metroplex.
I haven't been to Pittsburgh, mostly just seen photos and streetview images, but it seems odd to me hear Pittsburgh (and Providence) being called not so urban cities.
I haven't been to Pittsburgh, mostly just seen photos and streetview images, but it seems odd to me hear Pittsburgh (and Providence) being called not so urban cities.
Pittsburgh is pretty urban. I grew up in the Pgh area, and went to college there. When my DH, who grew up in a midwestern city and went to college in suburban LA saw the Pitt campus, he remarked about how "urban" it looked. It may not seem so urban to some, with its hills and trees, but it is.
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