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I'm currently getting EDD benefits and got two job offers this week. I obviously have to decline one of them so technically I did refuse work. If I answer truthfully when I certify for weeks, would answering "Yes" to refusing work disqualify me from getting paid?
It will certainly suspend your benefits while the refusal is investigated, but no, refusals are not automatic disqualifications.
In today's world, you may not want to refuse the offer anyway. Could be that you'll start the one job, hate it, quit, and want the other one. Instead of refusing, just negotiate a later start date, and then if your first choice job is working out, then just call them and tell them you changed your mind.
Employers should be getting used to this because we have enough threads where someone quit a perfectly good job to accept what they thought was a better one, and then the employer called after the damage was done and rescinded.
It will certainly suspend your benefits while the refusal is investigated, but no, refusals are not automatic disqualifications.
In today's world, you may not want to refuse the offer anyway. Could be that you'll start the one job, hate it, quit, and want the other one. Instead of refusing, just negotiate a later start date, and then if your first choice job is working out, then just call them and tell them you changed your mind.
Employers should be getting used to this because we have enough threads where someone quit a perfectly good job to accept what they thought was a better one, and then the employer called after the damage was done and rescinded.
How is the refusal investigated? If I select "yes", will I have to provide an explanation?
I thought about revoking it at a later date but I didnt feel right about it. Don't want them to invest resources only for me to plan on never working there. It's a debatable topic.
If I select "yes", will I have to provide an explanation?
Eventually.
Rejecting because you already accepted another job might be good cause. I just hope this isn't a case that the job you are accepting starts a month from now, and the job you are rejecting is one you could have started tomorrow.
Rejecting because you already accepted another job might be good cause. I just hope this isn't a case that the job you are accepting starts a month from now, and the job you are rejecting is one you could have started tomorrow.
The second offer(which I took) came 48 hours after the first. Both would have me start ASAP pending background check and drug test.
I'm a bit surprised the explanation isnt asked for right away.
Just say no for now. Start your new job and make sure everything is on the up and up. Once you do that, than call in to let your case officer know you started a new job. In my state, refusal means you decline work even tho you was available to work. That will stop your benefits right away. So might want to get with your case worker first before you *********rself out of wages.
Will I be automatically assigned a case manager if I answer Yes? What state are you in?
Do NOT report a refusal in this situation. An offer is: We want you to start Monday. Your duties will be . . . . You will work 8 am to 5 pm Monday to Friday. Your pay will be . . . .
When there is a contingency that you must pass, then these are NOT offers within the meaning of the UI system.
For the same reason that you might quit a perfectly good offer for a better job, and the UI system will deny a claimant (if the state even allows such a quit) because the job offer had a contingency and therefore a reasonable person wouldn't rely on that in deciding to give up existing employment.
Do NOT report a refusal in this situation. An offer is: We want you to start Monday. Your duties will be . . . . You will work 8 am to 5 pm Monday to Friday. Your pay will be . . . .
When there is a contingency that you must pass, then these are NOT offers within the meaning of the UI system.
For the same reason that you might quit a perfectly good offer for a better job, and the UI system will deny a claimant (if the state even allows such a quit) because the job offer had a contingency and therefore a reasonable person wouldn't rely on that in deciding to give up existing employment.
It's too late; I already called the first employer and told them I won't accept. I've already had a background check with this agency before in '13 that came back clear. This is the agency that the company I did accept the offer from will use. I also don't do drugs. There's a small risk that I can accept. In this case, do I have to report a refusal?
I do want to get paid from EDD for this week though. I don't mind a delay if it wants to investigate but I do want it to understand the circumstances that led me to refusing my offer.
No, because it was never an offer in the first place. When you declined the job, what you really did was reject the employer's offer to participate in a drug test and background check.
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I do want it to understand the circumstances that led me to refusing my offer.
You will have that opportunity IF the rejected employer reports what they might perceive as a "refusal" to EDD. If you even have to bother with telling your side of the story, then you can tell EDD, "the employer wanted me to submit to a drug test and a background check with the understanding that if they found them acceptable I would begin working there. It wasn't an unequivocal offer of employment, and I went with a different employer instead."
Will I be automatically assigned a case manager if I answer Yes? What state are you in?
In your state, there are no "case managers". There are staffers who handle different issues within EDD. If you report a refusal (and I'm not sure this even meets the regulatory definition of a "job offer") the next person in rotation in the office that handles those issues, will have your issue handed to them and they will contact you if they need additional information. Just keep filing and monitoring your on-line status to see if anything changes.
Since you are in CA, there are state specific regulations pertaining to job offers for the purpose of background, drug and credit checks. You will receive an offer letter but that offer letter is not the same type of offer unemployment is talking about. So, you will read all sorts of conflicting items but as Chyvan mentioned, from EDD's point of view, a legitimate employment offer has no contingencies you must meet. If you pass the check and they remove any contingency, now that becomes the offer EDD is using
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