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I have just exhausted an extension (third or fourth tier) on a claim from 2009. Since my 2009 benefits ran out and these extensions began, I have begun and exhausted other claims. My question is this: if I run through the final tier of extensions on the 2009 claim before I get a new job, will I receive an 1st tier extension on a more recent claim?
I have just exhausted an extension (third or fourth tier) on a claim from 2009. Since my 2009 benefits ran out and these extensions began, I have begun and exhausted other claims. My question is this: if I run through the final tier of extensions on the 2009 claim before I get a new job, will I receive an 1st tier extension on a more recent claim?
Only if:
Recent claim qualified for EUC
Recent claim has not yet expired
In other words, if you had a claim in 2012 which expired 1/12/2013 and you had unexhausted EUC benefits/were still collecting on the 2009 claim on 1/12/2013, the benefits on the 2012 claim are lost. You need to have begun EUC on the recent claim before its bye.
Hasn't that date been extended to Dec 0f 2013? Meaning if, as of last week my final tier ran out, and I am not eligible for a new claim, but I have a more recent claim on which no extensions have yet been filed, could a new 1st tier extension be filed on that more recent, exhausted claim?
2009 claim---tier 1--tier 2-- tier 3--new 2010 claim-- tier 4 of 2009 claim-- final tier of 2009 claim-- (can tier 1 of 2010 claim now begin?)
Yes. However, 12/13 applies to extension of federal legislation which enables EUC to be paid on a claim - if that claim qualifies, as I said above.
The 12/13 date does not mean that EUC attached to all claims, including those which expired, have been extended.
Only the EUC on those expired claims, if the EUC was begun prior to the bye (benefit year end) date of the claim, were extended.
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Originally Posted by joey95926
Meaning if, as of last week my final tier ran out, and I am not eligible for a new claim, but I have a more recent claim on which no extensions have yet been filed, could a new 1st tier extension be filed on that more recent, exhausted claim?
2009 claim---tier 1--tier 2-- tier 3--new 2010 claim-- tier 4 of 2009 claim-- final tier of 2009 claim-- (can tier 1 of 2010 claim now begin?)
Only if your state paid EUC on that 2010 claim before reverting back to the EUC from the 2009 claim. NY and NJ have done that from time to time. In those cases, they would have paid your state benefits first, and then begun EUC until your bye in 2011. At the bye, you would then be put back on the unexhausted EUC from an earlier claim - in your case 2009. They have not always followed this procedure. It seems hit and miss.
Check your records. Were you paid any EUC on the 2010 claim before its bye in 2011? If so, then you can resume what remains of the 2010 EUC when your 2009 Tier 4 is exhausted.
Per FAQS:
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General Tier/EB Facts:
If tier benefits are paid on a claim before its bye, under present legislation, those tiers can be resumed under a subsequent period of unemployment, provided legislation is still in place.
No, there have been no EUC benefits paid on any claim other than the 2009 claim. My latest claim was filed in April of 2012 and therefore, I am not eligible for a new claim until April of 2013. I was just hoping that since I have exhausted claims more recent than the 2009 claim, those claims would be eligible for 1st tier EUC. Even possibly the more recent 2012 claim which was exhausted in October of 2012.
No, there have been no EUC benefits paid on any claim other than the 2009 claim. My latest claim was filed in April of 2012 and therefore, I am not eligible for a new claim until April of 2013. I was just hoping that since I have exhausted claims more recent than the 2009 claim, those claims would be eligible for 1st tier EUC. Even possibly the more recent 2012 claim which was exhausted in October of 2012.
You didn't mention an April 2012 claim. So, now we're back to what I first told you, here:
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Originally Posted by Ariadne22
Only if:
Recent claim qualified for EUC
Recent claim has not yet expired
In other words, if you had a claim in 2012 which expired 1/12/2013 and you had unexhausted EUC benefits/were still collecting on the 2009 claim on 1/12/2013, the benefits on the 2012 claim are lost. You need to have begun EUC on the recent claim before its bye.
What is the bye date, exactly, in April?
Will you exhaust your old tier 4 benefits before the 4/13 bye date?
What state are you in? States have differing EUC criteria.
Does the 2012 claim qualify for EUC? If you aren't sure, post your original monetary determination, weekly benefit, and quarters used as a basis for that claim.
With any luck at all, that 2012 claim may be eligible.
I don't know the exact date of the claim in April, but the most recent tier ran out on Jan 12, 2013. I am in Ca, the original 2012 claim (the one from April) was for $383 a week, meaning that during the earnings quarter it was based on, I earned just under $10,000. I don't know what original monetary determination means. For that matter, I don't know what bye means.
I'm really hoping for that luck.
Also, when I got the letter about the tier running out, it said I may be eligible for a new claim (like it always does, I think that's just part of a generic form letter), but I filed on-line for a new claim. I'm hoping that since the application asked me if I'd filed a claim within the last 12 months and I filled it out accordingly with the info about the April claim, it will simply be denied and there will be an eligible EUC filed instead.
I really appreciate your help. It may have postponed my nervous breakdown over the long weekend. Thank you.
I don't know the exact date of the claim in April, but the most recent tier ran out on Jan 12, 2013. I am in Ca, the original 2012 claim (the one from April) was for $383 a week, meaning that during the earnings quarter it was based on, I earned just under $10,000.
Look, without specifics, we are going nowhere. You need to provide exact dates and amounts. One day one way or the other makes the whole difference on whether or not you might get EUC from the 2012 claim. One dollar one way or the other in the quarters used for the 2012 claim, or the base-year earnings as they relate to the weekly benefit, makes a difference.
In April of 2012, you got a letter which spelled out your original monetary determination. It stated you were entitled to X$, paid out at the rate of $383/week, over x number of weeks. The bottom of the April letter lists the quarters used for qualifying you for this claim. It also stated your benefit year begin and benefit year end dates.
It sounds like you qualified for 26 weeks @ $383. However, you can have a 26-week claim and still not have EUC eligibility, as I stated above. This happens, often, when a claim is based on a high quarter, but there aren't enough earnings in other quarters.
To qualify for EUC in CA, you need to have base-year earnings on that claim in excess of 40x your weekly benefit of $383, or in excess of $15,320,
OR
If you don't have that, then your base-year earnings need to exceed 1.5x the highest quarter used - in other words if your high quarter was $9,958, total earnings in the quarters used for this claim must total at least $14,938.
If your claim meets either of those standards, then your claim qualifies for EUC. If both criteria are off by so much as a dollar, it won't. Details matter.
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Originally Posted by joey95926
For that matter, I don't know what bye means.
I already answered that, earlier:
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Originally Posted by Ariadne22
Only the EUC on those expired claims, if the EUC was begun prior to the bye (benefit year end) date of the claim, were extended.
Last edited by Ariadne22; 01-19-2013 at 08:31 PM..
If I've read what you wrote correctly, I do not qualify for EUC. Is that accurate?
You are correct. Your total base-year wages are $14,060.41. You need total base-year wages of $16,613 (11,075.07x1.5), or $17,040 ($426x40).
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Originally Posted by joey95926
If so, does that mean that I am in the wind until April 6th, or do I qualify for reduced benefits?
You will need to wait until April 6, at which time you can apply for a new claim. If you worked and earned new wages during your past benefit year - 04/08/12-04/06/13 - CA will base its benefit on those earnings.
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