03-06-2014, 10:19 AM
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Hello to all, new member. Visited Arizona a few months ago and stayed at several 55+ communities looking to relocate and retire from Illinois. Narrowed list to Del Webb's Festival in Buckeye and Robson's Saddlebrook Ranch (SBR) near Oracle. Was impressed with both. Each has its plus and minus. Any advice/suggestions concerning either community is appreciated. Is the wind (too much) a factor at SBR?
03-06-2014, 03:44 PM
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The main difference is the elevation and temperatures. If your looking for someplace warm in the winter then look at Buckeye the elevation there is about 1000 feet. Saddle Brooke Ranch on the other hand is about 3500 feet and snow there in the winter is not uncommon. If you have snow tires and a Subaru you might find them handy in SBR. The big difference will be the summer heat. Buckeye will be about 106 degrees where you are at for June, July and August and SBR will be about 94. The wind isnt that much of a factor but in the winter if its blowing 10mph in Oracle and its 45 degrees it seem pretty cold. I think Sun City Grand would be a nice alternative if prices are the same. Phoenix is a big league town and if you are in Tucson we dont even have minor league stuff anymore. If your in Sun City Grand or Festival you can follow your favorite Chicago team in spring training. I also think you might meet a lot more people in the established communities.
03-07-2014, 05:17 PM
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I can't speak to Festival in Buckeye, but I'm familiar with SaddleBrooke Ranch. I used to sell furniture in Tucson and a lot of my customers came from the SaddleBrookes. Many people who move there don't take much (if any) furniture and buy new when they arrive. The houses are such a different style for people from the East that the furniture from their previous homes doesn't really fit, literally if they're downsizing. I was very impressed with the people I got to know. They all seemed well-educated and friendly. Most of them also seemed to be fairly accomplished, although one woman (who was a doctor, as was her husband) told me, "We don't like people to brag about what they
used to do . We're not impressed. We just care about how they act now." I thought that was nice. I'm also very impressed with the incredible variety of activities they have there. Beautiful facilities, too, (not to mention the homes).
What BK said about the differences in temperatures between Phoenix and SBR is correct. It will usually be a good 10 degrees cooler in SaddleBrooke. If you're big into golfing, I'd question how often you could do that all summer in Phoenix, with temps well over 100, which would make SBR the better choice. You won't have snow up at SBR in winter all that often and even when it does snow, it certainly doesn't last. Here is a chart that shows average monthly highs and lows, specifically for SBR. It shows the daily highs for Nov.-Feb. averaging 60 to 68. And, of course it will be sunny most every day. A big difference from Illinois!
Average Weather for SaddleBrooke Ranch Golf Club, AZ - Temperature and Precipitation
But BK is right that if you're a baseball fan, you won't get that here in Southern Arizona. Other than the new FC Tucson, we only have college athletics. Best of luck with your choice. Everyone I know who has moved into one of those 55+ communities wishes they'd have done it earlier.
03-08-2014, 01:52 PM
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We are in Minnesota and are making the same decisions you are. Air Quality was one of our concerns and because of that we will stay out of the Valley of the Sun (PHX). We were out there a couple of weeks ago and looked at Trilogy Vistancia, Corte Bella, SC Grande, and SC Festival. Of those, we chose Festival because of its location, clean air, caliber of the amenities, and views of the White Tank Mountains. I'm doing a Texas tour in April and will look at several places around San Antonio and Austin. Haven't been to Saddlebrooke yet, but we will come and stay there next winter. I believe that right now Festival and Saddlebrooke are our top two choices. I have concerns about Festival because of the massive planned development in that area, and the new freeway through there that is in the planning stages right now
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Interstate 11 - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia ). Festival was very beautiful though, the houses well thought out, the amenities were the most appealing of anything we've seen. A Pickleball tournament is held there each year, and the courts are beautiful. Right now though it is probably more isolated than Saddlebrooke seems to be. Much development is planned though. Being Minnesotan's, those "cold" temperatures there in Saddlebrooke would be pretty much T Shirt and Shorts for us. Can't wait to go there and look it over.
03-08-2014, 06:11 PM
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For what it's worth (and relocating for retirement is a highly subjective topic) My wife and I looked and communities throughout NM, UT and AZ and selected Saddlebrooke because of the amenities, quality of home construction, climate and reasonable cost. We selected one of the last 25 or so lots still available and hope to be in by September. We also we considering Saddlebrooke Ranch and it was a tough choice, but liked the lot we chose, because of the view and the fact that SB is fully established.
Good luck in your search.
BTW: Jukesgrrl we've enjoyed your highly informative posts over the last few years. They have been very helpful to us.
03-10-2014, 04:18 PM
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Are you certain you are not confusing Saddlebrooke and Saddlebrook Ranch ? "Last 25 lots" might be an accurate statement about Saddlebrook but the Ranch is a very new community with only a couple hundred homes.
I looked at both last December and loved the ammenities and floorplans at SBR however on that particular day the wind was a real problem. During the comp lunch we got after our tour we overheard a conversation at the next table between friendly resident couples, one was selling out and moving to Saddlebrook after 1 year at the SBR, because of wind.
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03-10-2014, 06:23 PM
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Sorry for any confusion. We did get one of the few remaining lots in Saddlebrooke . We did look as SB Ranch as well and like Steve, thought that the Hacienda Clubhouse was impressive. We did hear talk, mostly among the Saddlebrooke residents, about the wind up in the Ranch, but our reason for picking Saddlebrooke over Saddlebrooke Ranch was the views we have from the lot we selected and the fact that the community was fully established. The Ranch does have about 300 homes completed and will have over 4000 once it's built out. The home models offered at the Ranch are also available to those who purchase lots in SB.
03-15-2014, 04:44 PM
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Thanks
Thanks to all replies, info was much appreciated.
03-15-2014, 10:01 PM
Location: Tucson for awhile longer
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Sorry for any confusion. We did get one of the few remaining lots in Saddlebrooke . We did look as SB Ranch as well and like Steve, thought that the Hacienda Clubhouse was impressive. We did hear talk, mostly among the Saddlebrooke residents, about the wind up in the Ranch, but our reason for picking Saddlebrooke over Saddlebrooke Ranch was the views we have from the lot we selected and the fact that the community was fully established. The Ranch does have about 300 homes completed and will have over 4000 once it's built out. The home models offered at the Ranch are also available to those who purchase lots in SB.
That's good to hear. When I toured the homes at SBR, I saw some models that were gorgeous and a creative use of space.
03-15-2014, 11:20 PM
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Went up to SBR today and it was pretty windy. The big thing I think is different when you go up to SaddleBrook and SBR you are really leaving the Sonoran Desert. There are no saguaro cactus and the mesquite trees are mesquite bushes. If you like Mexican Palm trees I am not sure they grow up there. The houses were pretty nice and well built. I talked to someone who lived in Saddlebrook and he liked all the activities and the live theater. If I am going to live near Tucson I want to see something like this everyday.
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People in Group quarters - Military ships (%)
People in Group quarters - Group homes (%)
People in Group quarters - Homes or halfway houses for drug/alcohol abuse (%)
People in Group quarters - Homes for the mentally ill (%)
People in Group quarters - Homes for the mentally retarded (%)
People in Group quarters - Homes for the physically handicapped (%)
People in Group quarters - Other group homes (%)
People in Group quarters - Religious group quarters (%)
People in Group quarters - Dormitories (%)
People in Group quarters - Agriculture workers' dormitories on farms (%)
People in Group quarters - Job Corps and vocational training facilities (%)
People in Group quarters - Other workers' dormitories (%)
People in Group quarters - Crews of maritime vessels (%)
People in Group quarters - Other nonhousehold living situations (%)
People in Group quarters - Other noninstitutional group quarters (%)
Residents speaking English at home (%)
Residents speaking English at home - Born in the United States (%)
Residents speaking English at home - Native, born elsewhere (%)
Residents speaking English at home - Foreign born (%)
Residents speaking Spanish at home (%)
Residents speaking Spanish at home - Born in the United States (%)
Residents speaking Spanish at home - Native, born elsewhere (%)
Residents speaking Spanish at home - Foreign born (%)
Residents speaking other language at home (%)
Residents speaking other language at home - Born in the United States (%)
Residents speaking other language at home - Native, born elsewhere (%)
Residents speaking other language at home - Foreign born (%)
Class of Workers - Employee of private company (%)
Class of Workers - Self-employed in own incorporated business (%)
Class of Workers - Private not-for-profit wage and salary workers (%)
Class of Workers - Local government workers (%)
Class of Workers - State government workers (%)
Class of Workers - Federal government workers (%)
Class of Workers - Self-employed workers in own not incorporated business and Unpaid family workers (%)
House heating fuel used in houses and condos - Utility gas (%)
House heating fuel used in houses and condos - Bottled, tank, or LP gas (%)
House heating fuel used in houses and condos - Electricity (%)
House heating fuel used in houses and condos - Fuel oil, kerosene, etc. (%)
House heating fuel used in houses and condos - Coal or coke (%)
House heating fuel used in houses and condos - Wood (%)
House heating fuel used in houses and condos - Solar energy (%)
House heating fuel used in houses and condos - Other fuel (%)
House heating fuel used in houses and condos - No fuel used (%)
House heating fuel used in apartments - Utility gas (%)
House heating fuel used in apartments - Bottled, tank, or LP gas (%)
House heating fuel used in apartments - Electricity (%)
House heating fuel used in apartments - Fuel oil, kerosene, etc. (%)
House heating fuel used in apartments - Coal or coke (%)
House heating fuel used in apartments - Wood (%)
House heating fuel used in apartments - Solar energy (%)
House heating fuel used in apartments - Other fuel (%)
House heating fuel used in apartments - No fuel used (%)
Armed forces status - In Armed Forces (%)
Armed forces status - Civilian (%)
Armed forces status - Civilian - Veteran (%)
Armed forces status - Civilian - Nonveteran (%)
Fatal accidents locations in years 2005-2021
Fatal accidents locations in 2005
Fatal accidents locations in 2006
Fatal accidents locations in 2007
Fatal accidents locations in 2008
Fatal accidents locations in 2009
Fatal accidents locations in 2010
Fatal accidents locations in 2011
Fatal accidents locations in 2012
Fatal accidents locations in 2013
Fatal accidents locations in 2014
Fatal accidents locations in 2015
Fatal accidents locations in 2016
Fatal accidents locations in 2017
Fatal accidents locations in 2018
Fatal accidents locations in 2019
Fatal accidents locations in 2020
Fatal accidents locations in 2021
Alcohol use - People drinking some alcohol every month (%)
Alcohol use - People not drinking at all (%)
Alcohol use - Average days/month drinking alcohol
Alcohol use - Average drinks/week
Alcohol use - Average days/year people drink much
Audiometry - Average condition of hearing (%)
Audiometry - People that can hear a whisper from across a quiet room (%)
Audiometry - People that can hear normal voice from across a quiet room (%)
Audiometry - Ears ringing, roaring, buzzing (%)
Audiometry - Had a job exposure to loud noise (%)
Audiometry - Had off-work exposure to loud noise (%)
Blood Pressure & Cholesterol - Has high blood pressure (%)
Blood Pressure & Cholesterol - Checking blood pressure at home (%)
Blood Pressure & Cholesterol - Frequently checking blood cholesterol (%)
Blood Pressure & Cholesterol - Has high cholesterol level (%)
Consumer Behavior - Money monthly spent on food at supermarket/grocery store
Consumer Behavior - Money monthly spent on food at other stores
Consumer Behavior - Money monthly spent on eating out
Consumer Behavior - Money monthly spent on carryout/delivered foods
Consumer Behavior - Income spent on food at supermarket/grocery store (%)
Consumer Behavior - Income spent on food at other stores (%)
Consumer Behavior - Income spent on eating out (%)
Consumer Behavior - Income spent on carryout/delivered foods (%)
Current Health Status - General health condition (%)
Current Health Status - Blood donors (%)
Current Health Status - Has blood ever tested for HIV virus (%)
Current Health Status - Left-handed people (%)
Dermatology - People using sunscreen (%)
Diabetes - Diabetics (%)
Diabetes - Had a blood test for high blood sugar (%)
Diabetes - People taking insulin (%)
Diet Behavior & Nutrition - Diet health (%)
Diet Behavior & Nutrition - Milk product consumption (# of products/month)
Diet Behavior & Nutrition - Meals not home prepared (#/week)
Diet Behavior & Nutrition - Meals from fast food or pizza place (#/week)
Diet Behavior & Nutrition - Ready-to-eat foods (#/month)
Diet Behavior & Nutrition - Frozen meals/pizza (#/month)
Drug Use - People that ever used marijuana or hashish (%)
Drug Use - Ever used hard drugs (%)
Drug Use - Ever used any form of cocaine (%)
Drug Use - Ever used heroin (%)
Drug Use - Ever used methamphetamine (%)
Health Insurance - People covered by health insurance (%)
Kidney Conditions-Urology - Avg. # of times urinating at night
Medical Conditions - People with asthma (%)
Medical Conditions - People with anemia (%)
Medical Conditions - People with psoriasis (%)
Medical Conditions - People with overweight (%)
Medical Conditions - Elderly people having difficulties in thinking or remembering (%)
Medical Conditions - People who ever received blood transfusion (%)
Medical Conditions - People having trouble seeing even with glass/contacts (%)
Medical Conditions - People with arthritis (%)
Medical Conditions - People with gout (%)
Medical Conditions - People with congestive heart failure (%)
Medical Conditions - People with coronary heart disease (%)
Medical Conditions - People with angina pectoris (%)
Medical Conditions - People who ever had heart attack (%)
Medical Conditions - People who ever had stroke (%)
Medical Conditions - People with emphysema (%)
Medical Conditions - People with thyroid problem (%)
Medical Conditions - People with chronic bronchitis (%)
Medical Conditions - People with any liver condition (%)
Medical Conditions - People who ever had cancer or malignancy (%)
Mental Health - People who have little interest in doing things (%)
Mental Health - People feeling down, depressed, or hopeless (%)
Mental Health - People who have trouble sleeping or sleeping too much (%)
Mental Health - People feeling tired or having little energy (%)
Mental Health - People with poor appetite or overeating (%)
Mental Health - People feeling bad about themself (%)
Mental Health - People who have trouble concentrating on things (%)
Mental Health - People moving or speaking slowly or too fast (%)
Mental Health - People having thoughts they would be better off dead (%)
Oral Health - Average years since last visit a dentist
Oral Health - People embarrassed because of mouth (%)
Oral Health - People with gum disease (%)
Oral Health - General health of teeth and gums (%)
Oral Health - Average days a week using dental floss/device
Oral Health - Average days a week using mouthwash for dental problem
Oral Health - Average number of teeth
Pesticide Use - Households using pesticides to control insects (%)
Pesticide Use - Households using pesticides to kill weeds (%)
Physical Activity - People doing vigorous-intensity work activities (%)
Physical Activity - People doing moderate-intensity work activities (%)
Physical Activity - People walking or bicycling (%)
Physical Activity - People doing vigorous-intensity recreational activities (%)
Physical Activity - People doing moderate-intensity recreational activities (%)
Physical Activity - Average hours a day doing sedentary activities
Physical Activity - Average hours a day watching TV or videos
Physical Activity - Average hours a day using computer
Physical Functioning - People having limitations keeping them from working (%)
Physical Functioning - People limited in amount of work they can do (%)
Physical Functioning - People that need special equipment to walk (%)
Physical Functioning - People experiencing confusion/memory problems (%)
Physical Functioning - People requiring special healthcare equipment (%)
Prescription Medications - Average number of prescription medicines taking
Preventive Aspirin Use - Adults 40+ taking low-dose aspirin (%)
Reproductive Health - Vaginal deliveries (%)
Reproductive Health - Cesarean deliveries (%)
Reproductive Health - Deliveries resulted in a live birth (%)
Reproductive Health - Pregnancies resulted in a delivery (%)
Reproductive Health - Women breastfeeding newborns (%)
Reproductive Health - Women that had a hysterectomy (%)
Reproductive Health - Women that had both ovaries removed (%)
Reproductive Health - Women that have ever taken birth control pills (%)
Reproductive Health - Women taking birth control pills (%)
Reproductive Health - Women that have ever used Depo-Provera or injectables (%)
Reproductive Health - Women that have ever used female hormones (%)
Sexual Behavior - People 18+ that ever had sex (vaginal, anal, or oral) (%)
Sexual Behavior - Males 18+ that ever had vaginal sex with a woman (%)
Sexual Behavior - Males 18+ that ever performed oral sex on a woman (%)
Sexual Behavior - Males 18+ that ever had anal sex with a woman (%)
Sexual Behavior - Males 18+ that ever had any sex with a man (%)
Sexual Behavior - Females 18+ that ever had vaginal sex with a man (%)
Sexual Behavior - Females 18+ that ever performed oral sex on a man (%)
Sexual Behavior - Females 18+ that ever had anal sex with a man (%)
Sexual Behavior - Females 18+ that ever had any kind of sex with a woman (%)
Sexual Behavior - Average age people first had sex
Sexual Behavior - Average number of female sex partners in lifetime (males 18+)
Sexual Behavior - Average number of female vaginal sex partners in lifetime (males 18+)
Sexual Behavior - Average age people first performed oral sex on a woman (18+)
Sexual Behavior - Average number of woman performed oral sex on in lifetime (18+)
Sexual Behavior - Average number of male sex partners in lifetime (males 18+)
Sexual Behavior - Average number of male anal sex partners in lifetime (males 18+)
Sexual Behavior - Average age people first performed oral sex on a man (18+)
Sexual Behavior - Average number of male oral sex partners in lifetime (18+)
Sexual Behavior - People using protection when performing oral sex (%)
Sexual Behavior - Average number of times people have vaginal or anal sex a year
Sexual Behavior - People having sex without condom (%)
Sexual Behavior - Average number of male sex partners in lifetime (females 18+)
Sexual Behavior - Average number of male vaginal sex partners in lifetime (females 18+)
Sexual Behavior - Average number of female sex partners in lifetime (females 18+)
Sexual Behavior - Circumcised males 18+ (%)
Sleep Disorders - Average hours sleeping at night
Sleep Disorders - People that has trouble sleeping (%)
Smoking-Cigarette Use - People smoking cigarettes (%)
Taste & Smell - People 40+ having problems with smell (%)
Taste & Smell - People 40+ having problems with taste (%)
Taste & Smell - People 40+ that ever had wisdom teeth removed (%)
Taste & Smell - People 40+ that ever had tonsils teeth removed (%)
Taste & Smell - People 40+ that ever had a loss of consciousness because of a head injury (%)
Taste & Smell - People 40+ that ever had a broken nose or other serious injury to face or skull (%)
Taste & Smell - People 40+ that ever had two or more sinus infections (%)
Weight - Average height (inches)
Weight - Average weight (pounds)
Weight - Average BMI
Weight - People that are obese (%)
Weight - People that ever were obese (%)
Weight - People trying to lose weight (%)