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Old 12-22-2010, 09:29 PM
 
Location: Tucson/Nogales
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What do you think of this old saying?

Are some victims not as sweet and innocent as the media portrays them?

Why is it I always get a pang of suspicion, when the media portrays many victims as the saintliest people you could ever meet?

I've yet to meet someone with angel wings! Have you?
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Old 12-27-2010, 05:27 PM
 
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Your post makes little snese. if you mean that the person wasn't just a accidental victim that really doesn't excuse the murderer of responsibilty of the murder;now does it.
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Old 12-27-2010, 08:03 PM
 
Location: Coachella Valley, California
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Two words - what ... and ... what???????
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Old 12-28-2010, 10:43 AM
 
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Well, you don't normally kill someone for no reason at all, but that's not the same as saying the victim is as guilty as the offender. If that's what you're saying...
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Old 12-28-2010, 07:57 PM
 
Location: Tucson/Nogales
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Nothing to me, is either shiny enamel white or shiny enamel black, except police cars, and the symbolism of that doesn't escape me. Ever seen a grey police car?

So, in every murder case, it's 100/0? Not 90/10, 80/20, 70/30, 60/40?

Many a house is nothing more than a lockbox. Will we ever know what goes on inside a typical "lockbox"?? Inside any number of these "lockboxes" you might get a peak of what hell may be like some day.

Apparently, the media seems to know what goes on inside these lockboxes as they, oftentimes, dwell solely on the angelic aspects of the victim, overlooking the hidden diabolical, which exists in all of us, speaking largely of the cases with a husband or wife being killed.

John Liszts's wonderful wife never told him she was afflicted from complications from syphilis when she married him. Nice!

The Robert Blake/Bonnie Blakely case? 100/0? After reading that book, I grew frustrated, page by page, that he waited so long!

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Old 01-02-2011, 10:52 AM
 
Location: Orlando, Florida
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The innocence of the victim isn't really the issue.
Vigilante acts, taking the law into your own hands, is the crime.
Now, it might go better for you in terms of not getting the death sentence if you had a good reason for killing someone and maybe even doing society a favor in the process, but it is still against the law regardless unless it was in urgent self defense.

I'm not sure about other states, but Florida had a law for a long time that you couldn't even kill someone breaking into your house unless half their body was INSIDE your house...such as half way in the window. That law has been rewritten....but it explains the point.
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Old 01-06-2011, 11:36 AM
 
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The innocence of the victim isn't really the issue.
Vigilante acts, taking the law into your own hands, is the crime.
Now, it might go better for you in terms of not getting the death sentence if you had a good reason for killing someone and maybe even doing society a favor in the process, but it is still against the law regardless unless it was in urgent self defense.
I second that emotion!
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Old 01-07-2011, 05:23 AM
 
Location: Houston, TX
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Reminds me of an eye-opening moment I had when I went to a child fatality meeting in Philadelphia years ago. During this meeting, representatives from law enforcement, medical examiners office, CPS, DA's office, and others would review child deaths that occurred in the city. For each case, they would present any history of disciplinary/criminal activity for both the victim and the perpetrator. Turns out, most of the "child" deaths were drug and/or gang-related shootings of teenagers, and I was surprised to find that there was usually little difference between the criminal history of the perpetrators and the victims.

Of course, this phenomenon is not restricted to children, nor is it limited to Philadelphia. Baltimore, for example, has an extremely high homicide rate; however, the vast majority of these are again drug/gang related shootings that occur in certain parts of the city. Houston has its share of deaths occurring during "home invasions", which alarm the general populace - but what is not typically reported is the reason why these homes are being "invaded" - most of them are drug houses.

Certainly, there are murders with completely "clean" victims, and these do get much more media coverage - but these are in the minority.
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