5G and travel trouble (restrictions, airlines, airports, Europe)

[elnina]

Planning to fly somewhere?

Looks like the FAA is unable to do what nearly 40 countries have done, which is to safely deploy 5G technology without disrupting aviation services.

Ahead of the mega 5G rollout in the US, major airlines like British Airways, Lufthansa, Emirates, Air India, ANA and Japan Airlines cancelled some flights over concerns that it could potentially interfere with some instruments and may put flyers' safety at risk.
Arline operators in the US warned that the rollout could cause "catastrophic disruption" to their flight schedules.
Boeing has announced flight restrictions on all airlines operating the Boeing 777 aircraft.
Airlines have also been instructed by the FAA to avoid automatic landings at affected U.S. airports during bad weather conditions, regardless of plane type and redirect the planes to nearby airports during those conditions.

Read this:
https://edition.cnn.com/2022/01/28/t...fcc/index.html

https://www.cnn.com/2022/01/19/busin...ope/index.html

[lieqiang]

I thought at the last minute they decided to delay switching on near affected airports, which minimized disruptions?

[BOBNCHI]

It's on the fast track to be resolved and changing daily.

https://www.faa.gov/newsroom/faa-statements-5g

[cjseliga]

Originally Posted by elnina

Looks like the FAA is unable to do what nearly 40 countries have done, which is to safely deploy 5G technology without disrupting aviation services. [/url]

From what I read, and I'm not a comms/physics guy, is that, for whatever reason, the frequency of 5G-C band that they agreed to use in the US is very close to the frequency of many of the instruments that aircraft use, especially in limited visibility, while outside the US (mainly in Europe) their 5G C band frequency is further away from the frequency that airplanes use for many of their instruments.

[elnina]

Originally Posted by lieqiang

I thought at the last minute they decided to delay switching on near affected airports, which minimized disruptions?

I think some airlines aren't taking that chance.
FAA can't be trusted...

Originally Posted by cjseliga

From what I read, and I'm not a comms/physics guy, is that, for whatever reason, the frequency of 5G-C band that they agreed to use in the US is very close to the frequency of many of the instruments that aircraft use, especially in limited visibility, while outside the US (mainly in Europe) their 5G C band frequency is further away from the frequency that airplanes use for many of their instruments.

Yeah. You can read about the details by clicking on my links ^^^

[Dreaming of Hawaii]

But, Elina, what you said in your post "Looks like the FAA is unable to do what nearly 40 countries have done, which is to safely deploy 5G technology without disrupting aviation services." What cjseliga clarified that statement, by explaining why Europe 5G is different from the US. He offered a counter to what you said. People shouldn't have to read your links to get that explanation.

[lieqiang]

Either way FAA isn't deploying anything, telecoms are doing so with approval from FCC. The issue here seems to be cooperation between FAA and FCC.

Some further googling shows that earlier in January 45% of affected aircraft in USA were approved but it is now already up to 90%. They just need to test the equipment, it's a shame that this avoidable situation has happened but it really does seem like it won't be affecting much since FCC (not FAA) suspended deployment of 5G near the bigger airports until it gets resolved.

[Roadking2003]

And T-Mobile 5g is not impacted since it uses a different technology.