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Submerged yourself in a HUGE fleece face mask--okay then, if it worked for you. You showed them no mask for you! Just a huge fleece face mask being submerged!
Yes but I was comfortable and warm and unmasked. It wasn’t huge, it was just my fleece jacket. You silly thing!
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No, I did get away with it beautifully and efficiently on United last week no problem. I completely submerged under my fleece on the window seat. Removed the mask and slept nicely for about 2.5 hours. No one bothered me. They wake you only if they actually see a falling mask. You can listen to music or sleep without a mask. The window seat is best for this. The key is being submerged in your blanket or jacket.
Yeah and I once got away not paying for my drink at a diner. In a sense you are masked by the fleece.
I wouldn’t count on it always happening as air travel increases more and more with more passengers.
Yeah and I once got away not paying for my drink at a diner. In a sense you are masked by the fleece.
I wouldn’t count on it always happening as air travel increases more and more with more passengers.
My plane was full. It was the Vegas to Newark flight which is always full. And the fact that the plane is full helps to conceal me. And if you are saying that I am masked by my fleece, then cool I was obeying the rules!
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Yes but I was comfortable and warm and unmasked. It wasn’t huge, it was just my fleece jacket. You silly thing!
Add a bungee cord around your neck so none of your spittle spew gets away.
Your solution is Probably adequate to contain your spray (that's the point of the mask on aircraft, and why 'vented' N-95s are not allowed).
Just bundle up really tight in the fleece head / body wrap and don't talk, sing, or exhale.
Perfect. (Unless you are confronted for not following the rules).
In that case you play by the rules, or you don't fly.
A $20k+ fine should be okay, except... You will have to find a different carrier to complete your trip. Several $20k fines might become a bit burdensome, compared to wearing a $0.50 mask that is much more comfortable, cooler, and more sanitary than a personal fleece.
I have all but given up on air travel unless I am leaving the country or have an emergency. There is no excuse for treating people as bad as the do on a regular basis while expecting you to pay richly for the experience. They should pay us to fly. It is not just the pandemic; it has been going on for years and getting worse.
The pandemic has made things worse but I was already giving up on routine air travel before that. I was in Ireland when the Pandemic hit and came back at the end of March '20. They were taking people off the flight in wheel chairs who were fine getting on at Heath Row. It was a giant COVID party There were two dozen Mormon missionaries from all over, various tour guides, scuba dive instructors and dive masters, trekkers, and usual tourists from all over the world channeled through Heath Row. My seat neighbor was from South Africa and the people behind me were from Nepal. It took hours just to get through the Dallas airport and we missed our connecting flight, of course.
My previous flight was domestic but just as bad. On one flight they asked everyone's weight and then drained fuel to make the pane light enough to get off the ground. We added fuel at stops along the way. The window fell out on a flight. They want us to pay for this service.
Rational self-interest IS a most basic virtue of humanity, and we need to recognize it, and embrace it, and encourage it, and admire it, and celebrate it.
I've discovered 'let peace begin with me' during airline travel is in my own self-interest because it helps de=escalate and mellow out an environment a lot of people find to be very stressful. So I'm the one hefting bags into bins for little old ladies, letting someone cut in line if they're running late and worried about making their flight, will do small talk with children in the gate area to give their parents a wee little break from engagement with them, etc.
However I will not swap seats for one that is inferior to one I picked at time of ticket purchase, no matter how much other people want to sit together. I'm a nice person but that one crosses the line into letting myself be a doormat.
And hey, those folks who shared a plane with me on Tuesday should be glad I wore my mask properly while in transit because I started to get a nasty sore throat on Wednesday and got a strep diagnosis on Thursday (covid test was negative) because I might have been contagious then even though I wasn't symptomatic at the time.
I've discovered 'let peace begin with me' during airline travel is in my own self-interest because it helps de=escalate and mellow out an environment a lot of people find to be very stressful. So I'm the one hefting bags into bins for little old ladies, letting someone cut in line if they're running late and worried about making their flight, will do small talk with children in the gate area to give their parents a wee little break from engagement with them, etc.
However I will not swap seats for one that is inferior to one I picked at time of ticket purchase, no matter how much other people want to sit together. I'm a nice person but that one crosses the line into letting myself be a doormat.
And hey, those folks who shared a plane with me on Tuesday should be glad I wore my mask properly while in transit because I started to get a nasty sore throat on Wednesday and got a strep diagnosis on Thursday (covid test was negative) because I might have been contagious then even though I wasn't symptomatic at the time.
Planes have excellent HEPA filters and everyone should be vaccinated. Soon we'll have excellent therapeutics also. I have zero zilch nada sympathy for anti-vaxx flyers.
Add a bungee cord around your neck so none of your spittle spew gets away.
Your solution is Probably adequate to contain your spray (that's the point of the mask on aircraft, and why 'vented' N-95s are not allowed).
Just bundle up really tight in the fleece head / body wrap and don't talk, sing, or exhale.
Perfect. (Unless you are confronted for not following the rules).
In that case you play by the rules, or you don't fly.
A $20k+ fine should be okay, except... You will have to find a different carrier to complete your trip. Several $20k fines might become a bit burdensome, compared to wearing a $0.50 mask that is much more comfortable, cooler, and more sanitary than a personal fleece.
The point of fleecing is to sleep without the mask. Me sleeping under fleece produces less exposure than a chattering mask wearer. I’m doing more than my part while not wearing the mask.
Vegas has strict mask rules. Or they claim to. But I wandered casinos without a mask and nobody bothered me. Smaller shops asked me to mask up, but by and large I went without in most cases where it was supposedly mandatory. If everyone would just vax and boost, this would have been a bad memory. But since critical thinking and reason take a back seat to irrationality, innumeracy, and mysticism in this very stupid country, we’ve got to play games with the ineffectual asinine masks.
Happily I live in the great state of New Jersey where we have decent vaccination rates and no mask mandates anywhere.
Flying as a business is a total disaster at every level. It is something to be avoided at all costs unless there is just no other way to get where you have to go.
I'm with you on that score. Next year I'm taking a cross-country 2000 mile trip to the Grand Canyon by car. 2 days instead of a few hours one way JUST SO I can avoid the hassle of flying. I was already pretty "flown-out" after I got out of the Air Force in 1995. But the subsequent developments over the past 26 years have made me determine I really don't feel like flying anymore.
My wife and I will suck it up and take the road adventure instead.
1. Get to the airport in plenty of time with just manageable carryon..
2. Do what you're told.
3. Sit down in your assigned seat and shut up.
4. Remain in your seat until everyone gets off.
5. Give the FA a nice smile and say Thank you.
6. Go to the transfer bay and find your pickup.
This regimen has worked fine for me, every single time.
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Submerged yourself in a HUGE fleece face mask--okay then, if it worked for you. 
You showed them no mask for you! Just a huge fleece face mask being submerged!
