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The armory square camera is the only one that is scenic or is worth watching in Onondaga County.
All the others are either low quality cameras or in uninteresting, non scenic and uninspiring places with no impressive views.
Adding new ones with high def quality cameras in scenic locations with scenic views will help Syracuse's reputation slightly improve. And placing them on YouTube will get more views.
The armory square camera is the only one that is scenic or is worth watching in Onondaga County.
All the others are either low quality cameras or in uninteresting, non scenic and uninspiring places with no impressive views.
Adding new ones with high def quality cameras in scenic locations with scenic views will help Syracuse's reputation slightly improve. And placing them on YouTube will get more views.
Again, this will depend on the person and doesn't really address the quality of life or economic growth piece.
A better idea would be to improve public transportation with more cross town routes versus just the spoke style public transportation that the area currently had. Meaning, having routes that reach in between the current routes like say a University Hill/Eastwood route via Teall Ave. or a Strathmore/Destiny USA route going down Geddes Street or more/frequent commuter routes from say the city to employment centers like at Radisson(which has multiple companies, inc. a Budweiser plant) and others further out in the county/area. That way, people have options in terms of how they can get to work or to different neighborhoods/communities.
Keep in mind that being a city where many don't own a car and that has a strong college town element, it would make sense to invest in this aspect to meet people where they are, while also setting the area up for growth in terms of how people can get around the area.
The Seneca Siren combines motorized travel with pedal power, allowing up to 10 passengers to help propel the boat by pedaling. The boat will navigate Seneca’s western and eastern shorelines and travel up the canal
The Seneca Siren combines motorized travel with pedal power, allowing up to 10 passengers to help propel the boat by pedaling. The boat will navigate Seneca’s western and eastern shorelines and travel up the canal
It would be nice to add. If it can be used as a mode of transportation to connect Onondaga Lake Park, the Inner Harbor, the Amphitheater/State Fair and Long Branch Park, that would be even better.
^I’d also say that a ferry that can go to those points on the lake and possibly even via Onondaga Creek to/from Downtown would be another option.
Bringing back an improved OnTrack could also help in terms of another option. Especially once the I-81 project gets started and it would be nice to extend it with commuter stops for Lyncourt/Mattydale, East Syracuse, Minoa and Jamesville: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/OnTrac...nTrack_map.png with other trains that use rail west of the city through Solvay and Warners; as well as rail that goes through Liverpool, the Woodard stop in Clay with a split there going to Clay hamlet just west of Micron or going NW with a stop potentially for Route 31 in Clay, at the 3 Rivers area just east of Radisson and even into Phoenix or even Fulton. With that latter area, this is another area where a Route 31 cross Northern county route on Route 31 could come into play from the village of Baldwinsville to say Bridgeport(think about Point Place Casino workers too) or at least to Cicero-North Syracuse HS.
With Micron building 4 chip fabs here, it is estimated that the Syracuse area will grow over 75,000 in population.
My question is this
If this area fights....
Skyscrapers downtown
Gentrification in the inner city neighborhoods
Expansion of public water and sewer lines in the suburbs
Where will the new 75,000 people live?
There isn't enough land to support that many people just with infill development.
Either
-change zoning in the city to allow for Skyscrapers over 500 feet in more parts of the city
Or
-start expanding water and sewer lines in the suburbs
Or
-ignore NIMBYS in the city and suburbs who don't want new development to change the character of their neighborhood
The Syracuse area has to choose at least one of those options or home prices will become unaffordable for many locals soon.
It isn’t about not wanting development, but you want smart, practical development. Skyscrapers isn’t practical development, when there is plenty of land that needs infill first. You want Syracuse to have more street activity before building a skyscraper that “makes the city look good”. Most people think about walkability and activity in terms of neighborhoods first and increasing that is what the city, as well as area should focus on first. A skyscraper is what comes later when the economic growth is established and you don’t necessarily have to strictly gentrify neighborhoods, but offer a mix of housing options that can attract people and allow for those already there/want to stay to do so.
Also, much of the development will likely be in the northern suburbs/exurbs and into southern Oswego County due to proximity to the Micron facilities and the in case of Oswego County especially, available land to build on. You also have infill opportunities in the city of Fulton, which is a reasonable drive from the facilities and a small city that offers some walkability. Oswego and even a city like Auburn may have such opportunities when you consider residual jobs that come from the Micron announcement.
So, my point is more about reasonable development versus just building talker for the sake of “looks”. Things can look good outwardly, but need a lot of work inside. Hence, why I say that the neighborhoods that need infill would make sense to focus on first. Then, go from there. After all, most people aren’t looking to live in a skyscraper before looking for a stable, walkable and relatively active neighborhood that they can enjoy living in.
There are many smaller cities without big skyscrapers that are “popular” or have a good rep with a niche group due to things like walkability and activity for their size. So, you don’t need skyscrapers to get a good rep with a segment of people. Think Ithaca, Burlington, Boulder, Bend OR or even neighborhoods like those on this list: https://www.planning.org/greatplaces/list.htm Syracuse has potential to create neighborhoods in other parts of the city using examples like these versus just building skyscrapers and that’s it. You’ll notice a Syracuse neighborhood/area made the list and others in the city can do what some of those other neighborhoods have in other parts of town.
Lastly, keep in mind that Syracuse peaked at just under 221,000 people and is only about 2/3rds of its peak. So, between that and gaps in some neighborhoods, in terms of the city, there are quite a few opportunities for infill. Not including other cities in the area/region, as that 75,000 number, if things come to pass as they say, may be an underestimate.
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All the cities that don't have skyscrapers or a skyline aren't filled with eyesores scattered all over the city though. A good looking skyline distracts from all messy, ugliness of the city.
For example, imagine Paris France having garages, ugly warehouses, factories, steam plants, ugly architecture like the Laurel and ugly single family homes scattered all over the city.
Paris would even be ugly if you add in the amount of ugliness you see in the city of Syracuse to a beautiful city.
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