Possible move to Cedar City, UT (Ogden, St. George: 2015, motorhome, purchase)

[trackhead]

Originally Posted by tankslap71

Since several have posted positives I’ll post some of things we do not enjoy, things I wish I knew before moving here.
1. Wind, it blows relentlessly often. When it is windy, it lasts all day. Strong powerful wind, not just a breeze.
2. Litter. It’s everywhere. Wind may be partially to blame but I have seen people throw trash right out of their cars. Look around and you can’t miss the litter.
3. Drugs. A very big problem here. The 15 splits the town in half and it is a main corridor for drug trafficking. There are busts at our hotels and along the 15 all the time. Think of all the ones they don’t catch.
4. Lots of fast food here and not much else, sadly lacking in unique quality restaurants with nice ambiance.
5. If you are not LDS you will struggle socially. It’s not that they aren’t nice people, they just don’t have a lot of extra time between work, family and church. We started to notice this after a few months.
6. If you rely on locals for your business you will find Cedar City Residents to be very frugal for the most part.
7. Most of the cool outdoor activities are not in town but at least a half hour away or more.
8. The city oversells many things. A great example is historic downtown main st. It’s like 2 blocks with really no cool shopping or restaurants. The rest of main is mixed up with lots of hotels, strip malls and abandoned old hotels with squatters.
9. There is a culture of misogyny and racism. We noticed this after a few months.
10. This town loves its motor sports. Lots of atv riding all through the streets and many times they are kicking up dust on the side of the road and not operating safely on the streets.
11. Lots of good old boys who love to “roll coal” in the trucks at every opportunity.
12.For a town that tries to promote cycling, cyclists on the road are not treated well at all.
13. Winter. If it’s not your thing you’ll find it frustrating, cold and windy.
14. Wind. Again because it’s so bad here.

Park Discovery is fun for kids and a Natural Grocer just opened which is pretty cool.

I lived in SLC on an off for about twenty years, also lived in Logan and Garden City. I have been in Alaska for past six and considering Cedar City. We have a 9 year old, we're not LDS, but have had lots of great LDS friends in the past (not since having a kid though). My wife grew up in SLC non-LDS and had some minor issues with feeling left out, etc.

Curious about Cedar City, is it becoming more diverse with non-LDS families? Utah has so many awesome smaller towns, but outside of SLC county the LDS culture becomes something I'm concerned for raising a kid in, not because I have anything against the culture, but just for my kid being left out.

[tankslap71]

If you have a child are not LDS you will find it difficult. People will argue this and say it isn’t true. Trust me, it is.

[Curly Q. Bobalink]

Originally Posted by kletter1mann

Why not? More like it doesn't fit your gun-toting, coyote-shooting MAGA narrative. Sounds pretty on-point to me.

These few words say more than all of your other posts combined. Why in Heaven's name would you move to such a Republican, 2A supporting, conservative state when you have such obvious disdain for the beliefs of most of its inhabitants? California kick you out?

To the post, and specifically directed at others who have lived elsewhere, how are Cedar's winters compared to cities in the Midwest, specifically Chicago's? I have read that Cedar gets slightly more snow each year than northern Illinois, but the daily winter highs are significantly warmer. In Illinois, often the snow that falls in December is still on the ground (usually as piled snow from shoveling or plowing) until April. And, we frequently get cold snaps that are single-digit or even below zero (the record is something like -26°, but temperatures below -10°F are pretty rare). Personally, I think the weather in and around Kanab is "ideal", but that's a small enough town that I don't think adequate services would be found there, I anticipate needing a better staffed hospital as I age in. All things considered, is Dixie a better choice for retirement than Cedar?

[karenSG]

I vote yes, Dixie is a better choice than Cedar for retirement.

[Curly Q. Bobalink]

Originally Posted by karenSG

I vote yes, Dixie is a better choice than Cedar for retirement.

Thanks, Karen. Is your recommendation based on weather only, or does it relate to better services in St. George, etc.?

[kavm]

Originally Posted by Curly Q. Bobalink

These few words say more than all of your other posts combined. Why in Heaven's name would you move to such a Republican, 2A supporting, conservative state when you have such obvious disdain for the beliefs of most of its inhabitants? California kick you out?

To the post, and specifically directed at others who have lived elsewhere, how are Cedar's winters compared to cities in the Midwest, specifically Chicago's? I have read that Cedar gets slightly more snow each year than northern Illinois, but the daily winter highs are significantly warmer. In Illinois, often the snow that falls in December is still on the ground (usually as piled snow from shoveling or plowing) until April. And, we frequently get cold snaps that are single-digit or even below zero (the record is something like -26°, but temperatures below -10°F are pretty rare). Personally, I think the weather in and around Kanab is "ideal", but that's a small enough town that I don't think adequate services would be found there, I anticipate needing a better staffed hospital as I age in. All things considered, is Dixie a better choice for retirement than Cedar?

May be because:
- there is no law that says that you have to agree with the political beliefs of the current residents of the state, or that you need to hold back your political views if you are in the minority
- the state, representing the same inhabitants, is trying hard to seek growth from outside and most of that is from those that do not fit the "a Republican, 2A supporting, conservative state" stereotype
- just because a particular segment is politically dominant historically and now does not mean it will stay that way forever. Sometimes light even reaches the darkest spots

If we get a second residence, Cedar City and possibly Torrey would be the choice. Kanab, on the other hand, would not make my list.

Completely agree with you on healthcare. It is a must in retirement!

[Code Stemi]

Originally Posted by kavm

If we get a second residence, Cedar City and possibly Torrey would be the choice. Kanab, on the other hand, would not make my list.

Completely agree with you on healthcare. It is a must in retirement!

Why not Kanab?

[kavm]

Originally Posted by Code Stemi

Why not Kanab?

First, we live in SLC - and Cedar City is closer and more easily doable distance. Second, we don't like high heat - and Cedar City is much better for that due to the elevation. We also like somewhat bigger towns with services - and Cedar City fits that profile better. It is closer to the personal points of interest - Bryce, Zion, Grand Staircase Escalante NM and Capitol Reef. Finally, it has the Shakespeare festival.

[forsheamountain]

Sounds like Panguitch is in your future.

[Code Stemi]

Originally Posted by kavm

First, we live in SLC - and Cedar City is closer and more easily doable distance. Second, we don't like high heat - and Cedar City is much better for that due to the elevation. We also like somewhat bigger towns with services - and Cedar City fits that profile better. It is closer to the personal points of interest - Bryce, Zion, Grand Staircase Escalante NM and Capitol Reef. Finally, it has the Shakespeare festival.

Ok, I agree with a lot of what you mentioned, but just realize that Cedar City had several days this summer in the mid to upper 90's. I consider that "high heat" but others may not.