What Are the Chances that Djokovic will Pass Federer.... (finals, olympics, won)
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What are the chances that Djokovic will pass Federer in number of Grand Slams?
Facts: He has 6 now. He needs 11 more. He is 25 years old.
Can he win, on average, 2 Grand Slams a year untill he is 30?
Main Factors: Competitions
Federer: He will not be much of a competition to Djokovic in two years. Even now, Djokovic can beat him most of the times.
Nadal: Djokovic has answers to Nadal even if Nadal is completely healthy, well, except French Open.
Murray: I think Djokovic can take him and win most of the time.
Someone on the horizon? All the top 10 players are older than Djokovic (except Del Potro). Maybe all of them in the top 20 are older than Djokovic. None of them seems like a young promising Nadal, Federer, etc.
What are the chances Djokovic can get 17 total Grand Slams before retirement:
D - guys like Nadal, Murray, and Federer are close enough to Djokovic in quality that they beat him a fair share of time, and guys like Del Potro, David Ferrer, Jo-Wilfried Tsonga, and Tomas Berdych (though Djokovic has had Berdych's number) are also good enough to beat Djokovic occasionally. I mean Djokovic had an excellent 2012 season, was the player of the year, and still won only one Slam event that season.
The thing that will benefit Djokovic (and Murray, Federer, and Nadal, if he can stay healthy) is there are very few young guns (say ages 18-21) who look like future Grand Slam, much less multiple Grand Slam, winners. That may enable the current top players (and possibly some of the guys in the second tier such as DelPo, Jo-Willie, and Berdych who are still relatively young and may have Slam-winning ability) to win more Slam events as they progress in their careers than they would have otherwise.
First, Roger will likely wind up with 18 or 19 slams by the time it's all said in done with his best chances at Wimbledon and the U.S. Open. So Novak will need 12 or 13 more to reach Federer's mark. Second, it's unlikely that Novak will have the longevity Federer has had given his playing style. Third, there are still guys on tour (as mentioned above) who are going to win Slams over the next few years (including Federer and Nadal). So I don't see it happening.
But here's a real question to ponder: Can Federer win another French Open title?
Chance of Federer winning another French Open is the same as him winning any Grand Slam.
His chances of winning the French Open are considerably worse. That's why he's only won one so far compared to 7 Wimbys, 5 USOs and 4 AOs.
Nadal will be back by June and will win an 8th FO Title. Federer would be extremely lucky to reach the Final of the French this year, and even if he does, we all know what awaits him...
His chances of winning the French Open are considerably worse. That's why he's only won one so far compared to 7 Wimbys, 5 USOs and 4 AOs.
He has problem winning French Open because of the King of Clay. Federer did make it to the finals many times.
If Federer does not meet Nadal, he has as good or maybe even a better chance of winning compare to the other Grand Slams, especially considering the fact that Djokovic and Murray are not fans of clay.
He has problem winning French Open because of the King of Clay. Federer did make it to the finals many times.
Federer made it to the Final of basically every tournament he's ever played. But that was when he was younger, quicker and childless. And that was also when he had an aura invicibility. That aura has long left him and many more players now feel that he is beatable. And he's definitely more beatable on slower surfaces where guys like Djokovic and Murray can grind him out.
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Originally Posted by Timing2012
If Federer does not meet Nadal, he has as good or maybe even a better chance of winning compare to the other Grand Slams, especially considering the fact that Djokovic and Murray are not fans of clay.
No, he doesn't. There's a reason why the bulk of Roger's titles are on grass, fast hard courts, and indoor carpet. He does his best on faster surfaces where he wins more free points on serve and can take time away from his opponents. He does his worst on surfaces where guys like Nadal have time to chase down all of his shots.
And Djokovic is a very good clay court player. He just made it to the Roland Garros Final last year and beat Nadal on clay in consecutive Masters series tournaments in 2011. I don't know where you're getting this notion that he's "not a fan of clay."
And Andy Murray is clearly not the same player he was just 18 months ago. Prior to Wimbledon 2012, he had never won a set from Federer in a Grand Slam. He won one set at Wimby and really pushed him a bit, which gave him a lot of confidence. Then he came back to Wimbledon a few weeks later and completely destroyed Federer on Centre Court during the Olympics (not to mention him winning his first Grand Slam title at the U.S. Open a month and a half later). And then he destroyed Federer again in Shanghai. And he just beat him at the Aussie a few weeks ago.
Murray also made it to the Semis of the French a couple of years ago where he lost to, guess who, Rafael Nadal.
If Murray can completely rape Federer on Centre Court Wimbledon, what makes you think he can't beat him at Roland Garros?
Last edited by BajanYankee; 02-07-2013 at 09:06 AM..
Roger has been the second best clay court player in the world for the better part of a decade. It's just unfortunate for him that he had to play against the greatest clay court player of all time.
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