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Old 02-16-2013, 09:21 PM
 
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I've noticed when looking at the teacher pay schedule for Seattle Public Schools is much lower than other areas of the country. Even areas with much less distinguished school systems. (Comparing to current location where the entire district was deemed academically unacceptable by the state) anyone have any idea why this is?
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Old 02-16-2013, 09:29 PM
 
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because teachers are hated in washington.
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Old 02-16-2013, 09:31 PM
 
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Why are they hated? I'm not doubting you, just wondering. I've never heard that.
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Old 02-16-2013, 09:35 PM
 
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my mom is a public school teacher in washington and most of the resentment is due to them being used as political pawns.
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Old 02-16-2013, 09:36 PM
 
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Interesting. Thanks! It's just strange to see the salary so low in comparison.
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Old 02-16-2013, 11:19 PM
 
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Faculty pay at the UW is low, too, compared to peer universities. The State legislature doesn't support education.
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Old 02-16-2013, 11:25 PM
 
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May I ask why the legislature doesn't support it? You may or may not know... It's just SO strange. Like I said... Where I'm from our schools/education system stinks, but our teacher salary is higher.
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Old 02-17-2013, 11:47 AM
 
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It may have something to do with having no state income taxes here. Keep in mind that if a teacher can survive to retirement they are effectively millionaires in any state, due to their pensions. (It would take several $million to pay for an annuity that would cover their retirement pay and benefits. This is not to knock teachers in any way--I'd like to see everyone get a pension.) After factoring in the value of the pension a WA state teacher makes well over $100K annually.
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Old 02-17-2013, 01:06 PM
 
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Thanks Jalhop! That makes more sense... kind of. haha. I am in Texas where there is no state income tax here either but majority of our districts start in the mid to upper $40 range... even the districts that are deemed "academically unacceptable" by the state. Statistics wise, Texas has some of the dumbest kids, the same stats show Washington areas with mid to upper levels of intelligence nationwide. Something just doesnt add up. ya know? Am I crazy?
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Old 02-17-2013, 01:22 PM
 
Location: North Edmonds area
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It may have something to do with having no state income taxes here. Keep in mind that if a teacher can survive to retirement they are effectively millionaires in any state, due to their pensions. (It would take several $million to pay for an annuity that would cover their retirement pay and benefits. This is not to knock teachers in any way--I'd like to see everyone get a pension.) After factoring in the value of the pension a WA state teacher makes well over $100K annually.
Thanks for bringing this up. My spouse works in the school system here in the Seattle area,
and looks forward to what I feel is a generous pension. Yes, I made more than her in my
position, but not substantially more. I have just a 401K, typical of most workers in the private
sector, but my retirement " benefit" even with an immediate annuity will still only be 1/2 of what
she will receive from the state for life. The contribution in this state from the employees paycheck
is just 6% of gross pay, so its a good deal in my opinion.
Teachers should be paid well, its not an easy job, and currently positions are very hard to come by.
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