10-20-2010, 11:08 PM
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Hey Guys,
10-21-2010, 07:24 AM
Location: Raleigh, NC
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Some people commute by using 280 then 85 into Mountain View. I would avoid going that way. 85 is a mess in the morning. Traffic is pretty much stop and go. 101 is also congested but still better. Another option would be to take 87 to 101N, then get on Central Expressway just north of the airport. The average commute would be about 30 minutes. You're getting different numbers from people because it depends on which highway you take, and whether there are any accidents or road construction.
10-22-2010, 09:54 AM
Location: San Jose, CA
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On the way in, you should definitely take 280. Why? If you get onto 87 northbound, you have to sit through metering lights to get on, then another much longer wait to get onto 101 at the end. That can add up to 20 minutes to your drive! So, 280/85 is the clear choice. On the way back, though, you're pretty much on your own. No matter what you do you'll be sitting in stop and go for miles.
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10-22-2010, 02:05 PM
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Hey Guys,
I've done this commute every day for a while now, so I've tried 101, Central Expressway and 85 to 280. The short answer is that the best case is 25 - 40 minutes in the morning and 30 - 50 minutes in the evening, depending on where in Mountain View you're going.
If you're going to Downtown Mountain View and you'll be there by 7:30 AM, you'll have a 25 minute morning commute more days than not. Add 5 - 10 minutes if you'e commuting later in the morning. Add 5 -10 minutes to that if you're commuting to Moffett or Shoreline. In the morning, traffic chokes on 280 at the 880/17 interchange, because the freeway narrows from four lanes to two at that point. You can beat this if you're early enough (7:10 AM). Any later and traffic will be stop and go on 280 all the way from Downtown to the 880/17 interchange. 280 is usually pretty clear after the interchange, but it takes forever to get there. 85 north is usually slow (20-40 mph). I don't go this way.
Highway 87 is usually completely clear in the morning from Downtown to 101. However, there is a long meter backup from 87 to 101, which is worse the later it is. You can avoid this by keeping to the right at the 87 and 101 interchange and getting off at the North 1st exit. I do one of two things. One option is to go right at North 1st, then Brokaw and get right back on the highway. You're backtracking, but it's less than a mile, three right turns and the lights are usually green. It takes 3 - 4 minutes if the meter is off. The meter at Brokaw and 101 is off until about 7:30 AM. Or, I go left at Orchard Parkway, left at Trimble and get back on there. The meter at Trimble is slow, but you're further along 101. Traffic on 101 is stop and go pretty much every morning starting at the 101/237 interchange. If you're going to Downtown MV, take 237, not Moffett. This is the route I take and most days it's about 25 minutes in the morning. (I'm 5 minutes off the freeway on both ends).
If both freeways are jammed, I take Coleman Avenue to Central Expressway, but this is usually 35 minutes or so.
Evening traffic is bad everywhere. If you leave early enough (4:00 PM on the dot) you'll definitely save time. Every 15 minutes after that just makes things worse. If you're coming from Downtown MV in the afternoon, it will take 8-10 minutes just to get on 85. If you leave at 4:30 PM or later, 85 will be slow (15-30 mph) almost all the way to 280, which takes forever. 280 is usually somewhat clear (35-45 mph) most of the way back to Downtown. 280 often slows down around Meridian on the way back, but you're close enough that it isn't that long a wait.
101 in the evening can be unpredictable. It's never good, but sometimes it's not terrible. You're usually OK until San Thomas, where you can 100% count on either slow traffic (20-30 mph) or stop and go traffic all the way to 87. 87 South is hit and miss in the evening. Some days is completely clear and others it's slow (30 mph). Traffic on 87 usually backs up a little before Taylor in the evening.
Central Expressway is fairly predictable in the evening. Central and Moffett to De La Cruz to 101 to 87 to Downtown SJ at 4:30 PM to 5:00 PM is usually 30 minutes or so, and you're generally not sitting in traffic. (This is the way I go home.) You can also go right at De La Cruz (which turns into Coleman) depending on traffic on 101/87. Be aware that the Coleman/Hedding and Coleman/Taylor intersections suck in the evening. You can also go around 87 on Hwy 101 and get off just past that at Old Bayshore to North 4th Street. Most days it takes 30 - 35 minutes and is less aggravating than the stop and go either on 101 or 85.
Last but not least, you can take CalTrain. The train itself only takes 15 minutes, but if you're 10 minutes from the station on either end, you're up to 35 minutes. It also costs (I think) $112 per month from Downtown SJ to Downtown MV. Your employer might offer discounts, or a shuttle, so I'd check with them. I don't take the train because it doesn't save me much if any time (longer in the morning and shorter in the evening) and costs too much.
Take a look at SigAlert and the Google Maps phone apps, as both have live traffic that will save you commute time.
I HATE commuting, so I spent a lot of time finding the best routes. Hope they help.
10-22-2010, 09:45 PM
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Wow guys thanks a million for taking your time to answer my question! Its greatly appreciated.
10-23-2010, 08:35 AM
Location: Silicon Valley, CA
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Wow guys thanks a million for taking your time to answer my question! Its greatly appreciated.
My guess is that you're over by VeriSign and other companies. Cupertino doesn't really a town or city center so I know how you feel. SJ does have a downtown but it isn't all that lively after dark as you might think for a city its size (the downtown went through several decades of decline and it' is now coming back). You actually might want to try downtown Mt. View - walk around it....a fair number of restaurants and bars for a town its size. There's a lot of younger, single people there so you won't feel out of place.
Really the only truly urban area is SF, but the commute is pretty long to go to MV, though some people do that. Best of luck, maybe you want to try out a few places
10-23-2010, 08:57 AM
Location: A bit further north than before
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You should also check out downtown Palo Alto - not quite the big city, but much more lively than most suburbs.
10-25-2010, 01:53 PM
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Wow guys thanks a million for taking your time to answer my question! Its greatly appreciated.
That's about 5 minutes closer to Downtown than I am, so you could probably count on 20-30 minutes in the morning and 25-35 in the evening.
I moved to Downtown SJ for the same reasons as you - the rest of the South Bay is unexciting. If you're looking at the apartments on 3rd and San Fernando, 4th and San Fernando or overlooking 2nd Street, LIVE ON THE COURTYARD AND NOT ON THE STREET. You're a block from SJSU, and you WILL hear people screaming at the top of their lungs at 1:00 AM to 2:00 AM four to five nights per week, every week. This may be less of an issue in the winter, but it's like that constantly when the weather is good. Sometimes it's celebrating and sometimes it's fist fighting, but you will definitely hear it. Also, on 3rd street you'll hear delivery trucks as early as 4:00 AM and the garbage trucks start emptying dumpsters at about 6:00 AM.
There are some nice, affordable, older and well maintained places near 6th and San Fernando that I'm sure experience a LOT less noise.
11-02-2010, 02:57 PM
Location: Sunnyvale, CA
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I've done it a couple times during rush hour, and it took maybe 30-40 minutes on the freeway.
11-04-2010, 01:14 AM
Location: San Jose, CA
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How do you define peak hours? I leave around 9:30-10:15 from a condo just off Meridian (about 1.5 miles from downtown), and I usually get to Mountain View in around 20 minutes, longer the earlier I leave, 85 is the worst part, but it being only 3.5 miles I need to go, and it still moving at least 30mph whenever I'm there it is not really a big deal, three extra minutes. I have taken Race to the Alameda to El Caminot to De La Cruz to Central before, and that takes about 20-25 minutes, the office being near the border with Sunnyvale, just off central, and also just off 237. I can imagine the other end of Mountain View(near San Antonio) would take longer to get to.
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People in Group quarters - Long-term care (%)
People in Group quarters - Homes for abused, dependent, and neglected children (%)
People in Group quarters - Residential treatment centers for emotionally disturbed children (%)
People in Group quarters - Training schools for juvenile delinquents (%)
People in Group quarters - Short-term care, detention or diagnostic centers for delinquent children (%)
People in Group quarters - Type of juvenile institution unknown (%)
People in Group quarters - Noninstitutionalized population (%)
People in Group quarters - College dormitories (includes college quarters off campus) (%)
People in Group quarters - Military quarters (%)
People in Group quarters - On base (%)
People in Group quarters - Barracks, unaccompanied personnel housing (UPH), (Enlisted/Officer), ;and similar group living quarters for military personnel (%)
People in Group quarters - Transient quarters for temporary residents (%)
People in Group quarters - Military ships (%)
People in Group quarters - Group homes (%)
People in Group quarters - Homes or halfway houses for drug/alcohol abuse (%)
People in Group quarters - Homes for the mentally ill (%)
People in Group quarters - Homes for the mentally retarded (%)
People in Group quarters - Homes for the physically handicapped (%)
People in Group quarters - Other group homes (%)
People in Group quarters - Religious group quarters (%)
People in Group quarters - Dormitories (%)
People in Group quarters - Agriculture workers' dormitories on farms (%)
People in Group quarters - Job Corps and vocational training facilities (%)
People in Group quarters - Other workers' dormitories (%)
People in Group quarters - Crews of maritime vessels (%)
People in Group quarters - Other nonhousehold living situations (%)
People in Group quarters - Other noninstitutional group quarters (%)
Residents speaking English at home (%)
Residents speaking English at home - Born in the United States (%)
Residents speaking English at home - Native, born elsewhere (%)
Residents speaking English at home - Foreign born (%)
Residents speaking Spanish at home (%)
Residents speaking Spanish at home - Born in the United States (%)
Residents speaking Spanish at home - Native, born elsewhere (%)
Residents speaking Spanish at home - Foreign born (%)
Residents speaking other language at home (%)
Residents speaking other language at home - Born in the United States (%)
Residents speaking other language at home - Native, born elsewhere (%)
Residents speaking other language at home - Foreign born (%)
Class of Workers - Employee of private company (%)
Class of Workers - Self-employed in own incorporated business (%)
Class of Workers - Private not-for-profit wage and salary workers (%)
Class of Workers - Local government workers (%)
Class of Workers - State government workers (%)
Class of Workers - Federal government workers (%)
Class of Workers - Self-employed workers in own not incorporated business and Unpaid family workers (%)
House heating fuel used in houses and condos - Utility gas (%)
House heating fuel used in houses and condos - Bottled, tank, or LP gas (%)
House heating fuel used in houses and condos - Electricity (%)
House heating fuel used in houses and condos - Fuel oil, kerosene, etc. (%)
House heating fuel used in houses and condos - Coal or coke (%)
House heating fuel used in houses and condos - Wood (%)
House heating fuel used in houses and condos - Solar energy (%)
House heating fuel used in houses and condos - Other fuel (%)
House heating fuel used in houses and condos - No fuel used (%)
House heating fuel used in apartments - Utility gas (%)
House heating fuel used in apartments - Bottled, tank, or LP gas (%)
House heating fuel used in apartments - Electricity (%)
House heating fuel used in apartments - Fuel oil, kerosene, etc. (%)
House heating fuel used in apartments - Coal or coke (%)
House heating fuel used in apartments - Wood (%)
House heating fuel used in apartments - Solar energy (%)
House heating fuel used in apartments - Other fuel (%)
House heating fuel used in apartments - No fuel used (%)
Armed forces status - In Armed Forces (%)
Armed forces status - Civilian (%)
Armed forces status - Civilian - Veteran (%)
Armed forces status - Civilian - Nonveteran (%)
Fatal accidents locations in years 2005-2021
Fatal accidents locations in 2005
Fatal accidents locations in 2006
Fatal accidents locations in 2007
Fatal accidents locations in 2008
Fatal accidents locations in 2009
Fatal accidents locations in 2010
Fatal accidents locations in 2011
Fatal accidents locations in 2012
Fatal accidents locations in 2013
Fatal accidents locations in 2014
Fatal accidents locations in 2015
Fatal accidents locations in 2016
Fatal accidents locations in 2017
Fatal accidents locations in 2018
Fatal accidents locations in 2019
Fatal accidents locations in 2020
Fatal accidents locations in 2021
Alcohol use - People drinking some alcohol every month (%)
Alcohol use - People not drinking at all (%)
Alcohol use - Average days/month drinking alcohol
Alcohol use - Average drinks/week
Alcohol use - Average days/year people drink much
Audiometry - Average condition of hearing (%)
Audiometry - People that can hear a whisper from across a quiet room (%)
Audiometry - People that can hear normal voice from across a quiet room (%)
Audiometry - Ears ringing, roaring, buzzing (%)
Audiometry - Had a job exposure to loud noise (%)
Audiometry - Had off-work exposure to loud noise (%)
Blood Pressure & Cholesterol - Has high blood pressure (%)
Blood Pressure & Cholesterol - Checking blood pressure at home (%)
Blood Pressure & Cholesterol - Frequently checking blood cholesterol (%)
Blood Pressure & Cholesterol - Has high cholesterol level (%)
Consumer Behavior - Money monthly spent on food at supermarket/grocery store
Consumer Behavior - Money monthly spent on food at other stores
Consumer Behavior - Money monthly spent on eating out
Consumer Behavior - Money monthly spent on carryout/delivered foods
Consumer Behavior - Income spent on food at supermarket/grocery store (%)
Consumer Behavior - Income spent on food at other stores (%)
Consumer Behavior - Income spent on eating out (%)
Consumer Behavior - Income spent on carryout/delivered foods (%)
Current Health Status - General health condition (%)
Current Health Status - Blood donors (%)
Current Health Status - Has blood ever tested for HIV virus (%)
Current Health Status - Left-handed people (%)
Dermatology - People using sunscreen (%)
Diabetes - Diabetics (%)
Diabetes - Had a blood test for high blood sugar (%)
Diabetes - People taking insulin (%)
Diet Behavior & Nutrition - Diet health (%)
Diet Behavior & Nutrition - Milk product consumption (# of products/month)
Diet Behavior & Nutrition - Meals not home prepared (#/week)
Diet Behavior & Nutrition - Meals from fast food or pizza place (#/week)
Diet Behavior & Nutrition - Ready-to-eat foods (#/month)
Diet Behavior & Nutrition - Frozen meals/pizza (#/month)
Drug Use - People that ever used marijuana or hashish (%)
Drug Use - Ever used hard drugs (%)
Drug Use - Ever used any form of cocaine (%)
Drug Use - Ever used heroin (%)
Drug Use - Ever used methamphetamine (%)
Health Insurance - People covered by health insurance (%)
Kidney Conditions-Urology - Avg. # of times urinating at night
Medical Conditions - People with asthma (%)
Medical Conditions - People with anemia (%)
Medical Conditions - People with psoriasis (%)
Medical Conditions - People with overweight (%)
Medical Conditions - Elderly people having difficulties in thinking or remembering (%)
Medical Conditions - People who ever received blood transfusion (%)
Medical Conditions - People having trouble seeing even with glass/contacts (%)
Medical Conditions - People with arthritis (%)
Medical Conditions - People with gout (%)
Medical Conditions - People with congestive heart failure (%)
Medical Conditions - People with coronary heart disease (%)
Medical Conditions - People with angina pectoris (%)
Medical Conditions - People who ever had heart attack (%)
Medical Conditions - People who ever had stroke (%)
Medical Conditions - People with emphysema (%)
Medical Conditions - People with thyroid problem (%)
Medical Conditions - People with chronic bronchitis (%)
Medical Conditions - People with any liver condition (%)
Medical Conditions - People who ever had cancer or malignancy (%)
Mental Health - People who have little interest in doing things (%)
Mental Health - People feeling down, depressed, or hopeless (%)
Mental Health - People who have trouble sleeping or sleeping too much (%)
Mental Health - People feeling tired or having little energy (%)
Mental Health - People with poor appetite or overeating (%)
Mental Health - People feeling bad about themself (%)
Mental Health - People who have trouble concentrating on things (%)
Mental Health - People moving or speaking slowly or too fast (%)
Mental Health - People having thoughts they would be better off dead (%)
Oral Health - Average years since last visit a dentist
Oral Health - People embarrassed because of mouth (%)
Oral Health - People with gum disease (%)
Oral Health - General health of teeth and gums (%)
Oral Health - Average days a week using dental floss/device
Oral Health - Average days a week using mouthwash for dental problem
Oral Health - Average number of teeth
Pesticide Use - Households using pesticides to control insects (%)
Pesticide Use - Households using pesticides to kill weeds (%)
Physical Activity - People doing vigorous-intensity work activities (%)
Physical Activity - People doing moderate-intensity work activities (%)
Physical Activity - People walking or bicycling (%)
Physical Activity - People doing vigorous-intensity recreational activities (%)
Physical Activity - People doing moderate-intensity recreational activities (%)
Physical Activity - Average hours a day doing sedentary activities
Physical Activity - Average hours a day watching TV or videos
Physical Activity - Average hours a day using computer
Physical Functioning - People having limitations keeping them from working (%)
Physical Functioning - People limited in amount of work they can do (%)
Physical Functioning - People that need special equipment to walk (%)
Physical Functioning - People experiencing confusion/memory problems (%)
Physical Functioning - People requiring special healthcare equipment (%)
Prescription Medications - Average number of prescription medicines taking
Preventive Aspirin Use - Adults 40+ taking low-dose aspirin (%)
Reproductive Health - Vaginal deliveries (%)
Reproductive Health - Cesarean deliveries (%)
Reproductive Health - Deliveries resulted in a live birth (%)
Reproductive Health - Pregnancies resulted in a delivery (%)
Reproductive Health - Women breastfeeding newborns (%)
Reproductive Health - Women that had a hysterectomy (%)
Reproductive Health - Women that had both ovaries removed (%)
Reproductive Health - Women that have ever taken birth control pills (%)
Reproductive Health - Women taking birth control pills (%)
Reproductive Health - Women that have ever used Depo-Provera or injectables (%)
Reproductive Health - Women that have ever used female hormones (%)
Sexual Behavior - People 18+ that ever had sex (vaginal, anal, or oral) (%)
Sexual Behavior - Males 18+ that ever had vaginal sex with a woman (%)
Sexual Behavior - Males 18+ that ever performed oral sex on a woman (%)
Sexual Behavior - Males 18+ that ever had anal sex with a woman (%)
Sexual Behavior - Males 18+ that ever had any sex with a man (%)
Sexual Behavior - Females 18+ that ever had vaginal sex with a man (%)
Sexual Behavior - Females 18+ that ever performed oral sex on a man (%)
Sexual Behavior - Females 18+ that ever had anal sex with a man (%)
Sexual Behavior - Females 18+ that ever had any kind of sex with a woman (%)
Sexual Behavior - Average age people first had sex
Sexual Behavior - Average number of female sex partners in lifetime (males 18+)
Sexual Behavior - Average number of female vaginal sex partners in lifetime (males 18+)
Sexual Behavior - Average age people first performed oral sex on a woman (18+)
Sexual Behavior - Average number of woman performed oral sex on in lifetime (18+)
Sexual Behavior - Average number of male sex partners in lifetime (males 18+)
Sexual Behavior - Average number of male anal sex partners in lifetime (males 18+)
Sexual Behavior - Average age people first performed oral sex on a man (18+)
Sexual Behavior - Average number of male oral sex partners in lifetime (18+)
Sexual Behavior - People using protection when performing oral sex (%)
Sexual Behavior - Average number of times people have vaginal or anal sex a year
Sexual Behavior - People having sex without condom (%)
Sexual Behavior - Average number of male sex partners in lifetime (females 18+)
Sexual Behavior - Average number of male vaginal sex partners in lifetime (females 18+)
Sexual Behavior - Average number of female sex partners in lifetime (females 18+)
Sexual Behavior - Circumcised males 18+ (%)
Sleep Disorders - Average hours sleeping at night
Sleep Disorders - People that has trouble sleeping (%)
Smoking-Cigarette Use - People smoking cigarettes (%)
Taste & Smell - People 40+ having problems with smell (%)
Taste & Smell - People 40+ having problems with taste (%)
Taste & Smell - People 40+ that ever had wisdom teeth removed (%)
Taste & Smell - People 40+ that ever had tonsils teeth removed (%)
Taste & Smell - People 40+ that ever had a loss of consciousness because of a head injury (%)
Taste & Smell - People 40+ that ever had a broken nose or other serious injury to face or skull (%)
Taste & Smell - People 40+ that ever had two or more sinus infections (%)
Weight - Average height (inches)
Weight - Average weight (pounds)
Weight - Average BMI
Weight - People that are obese (%)
Weight - People that ever were obese (%)
Weight - People trying to lose weight (%)
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