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Old 05-25-2019, 10:28 AM
 
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Cars are expensive!
Yeah that's true and I get why the article probably used those figures or something similar. But that's the average (mean or median?) and may be not be exactly representative of living costs because there are significantly more used car sales than new.

6 years average ownership time seems really low. If you extend that out to 10 years, you can get a Honda Accord for $25k (price from a quick search online) and spread the cost out for only $2.5k year. Add a bit more for interest.

Writing this, it's kinda amazing to me that a new accord is cheaper than the average car. But definitely standards have changed over time.
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Old 05-25-2019, 01:42 PM
 
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Yeah that's true and I get why the article probably used those figures or something similar. But that's the average (mean or median?) and may be not be exactly representative of living costs because there are significantly more used car sales than new.

6 years average ownership time seems really low. If you extend that out to 10 years, you can get a Honda Accord for $25k (price from a quick search online) and spread the cost out for only $2.5k year. Add a bit more for interest.

Writing this, it's kinda amazing to me that a new accord is cheaper than the average car. But definitely standards have changed over time.
I was initially a little surprised at the $34K figure, but then it's surprising how many expensive cars are out there. You can easily get minivans, SUVs and trucks beyond that (and to twice that) and regular old sedans like the Accord are apparently hugely out of favor with most buyers.

The 6 years was a lazy, five-second internet search so who knows?

https://www.bls.gov/cex/2017/msas/west.xlsx

Per that, the average San Diego consumer unit spent $11K on transportation in 2017, $1,378 of which was for Public and other transportation. So roughly $9.4K.
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Old 05-30-2019, 10:29 AM
 
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No way does $100k go further in NYC than in San Diego. I call lies.
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Old 05-30-2019, 10:53 AM
 
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No way does $100k go further in NYC than in San Diego. I call lies.
I could definitely see it. Once you get outside of Manhattan prices for housing drop way off. If you are a commuter it can be a lot cheaper. There is a less competition for housing and jobs in NYC (outside of manhattan) than here, and the jobs are usually better and more stable. NYC folks spend less money on basic needs like heat, water etc as most buildings centrally supply these items and they are factored into the rent. Transportation costs are lower because folks don't own cars, etc. Now you could definitely say that SD has a higher standard of living, I wouldn't argue with that.
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Old 05-30-2019, 11:45 AM
 
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I could definitely see it. Once you get outside of Manhattan prices for housing drop way off. If you are a commuter it can be a lot cheaper. There is a less competition for housing and jobs in NYC (outside of manhattan) than here, and the jobs are usually better and more stable. NYC folks spend less money on basic needs like heat, water etc as most buildings centrally supply these items and they are factored into the rent. Transportation costs are lower because folks don't own cars, etc. Now you could definitely say that SD has a higher standard of living, I wouldn't argue with that.
I have family right outside of NYC, their property taxes specifically NJ are UNBELIEVEABLE.


They own a car because they have kids and tolls, reg., etc. are through the roof as well. Car insurance is $$$$ there as well. I don't know what subway passes cost.


If electric and gas aren't included in rental and certainly not with owning a home those are more costly as well in and around NYC. Thinking older buildings porous windows dealing with either freezing temps or humidity with a very small window of decent weather in between.


They definitely have us with Jobs and wages.
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Old 05-30-2019, 12:03 PM
 
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I could definitely see it. Once you get outside of Manhattan prices for housing drop way off. If you are a commuter it can be a lot cheaper. There is a less competition for housing and jobs in NYC (outside of manhattan) than here, and the jobs are usually better and more stable. NYC folks spend less money on basic needs like heat, water etc as most buildings centrally supply these items and they are factored into the rent. Transportation costs are lower because folks don't own cars, etc. Now you could definitely say that SD has a higher standard of living, I wouldn't argue with that.
Places like Nassau County & Westchester consistently come in # 2 on all those lists after San Francisco. Property taxes on a $300k home on Long Island will run on average $11k a year.


Commuting is NOT cheap. I pay $308 a month to go 30 minutes on a train.


NYC spends LESS on heat than SD? I highly doubt that, considering it's May & some nights this week we got into the 40's. Not all bldgs have utilities factored in.


People outside of NYC certainly do own cars (LI, Westchester, NJ & even the boros).
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Old 05-30-2019, 12:04 PM
 
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I have family right outside of NYC, their property taxes specifically NJ are UNBELIEVEABLE.


They own a car because they have kids and tolls, reg., etc. are through the roof as well. Car insurance is $$$$ there as well. I don't know what subway passes cost.


If electric and gas aren't included in rental and certainly not with owning a home those are more costly as well in and around NYC. Thinking older buildings porous windows dealing with either freezing temps or humidity with a very small window of decent weather in between.


They definitely have us with Jobs and wages.
Mine are $12k a year.


Verrazano Bridge is $19 right now without EZ-Pass.
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Old 05-30-2019, 12:28 PM
 
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I have family right outside of NYC, their property taxes specifically NJ are UNBELIEVEABLE.


They own a car because they have kids and tolls, reg., etc. are through the roof as well. Car insurance is $$$$ there as well. I don't know what subway passes cost.


If electric and gas aren't included in rental and certainly not with owning a home those are more costly as well in and around NYC. Thinking older buildings porous windows dealing with either freezing temps or humidity with a very small window of decent weather in between.


They definitely have us with Jobs and wages.
It just depends where you live. I'm talking about Queens / Brooklyn vs LI or NJ. Even on LI, if you are not in a village or hamlet, taxes can be a lot lower.
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Old 05-30-2019, 02:18 PM
 
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It just depends where you live. I'm talking about Queens / Brooklyn vs LI or NJ. Even on LI, if you are not in a village or hamlet, taxes can be a lot lower.
A lot lower than what? NY is # 2 or #3 in highest property taxes nationwide. NJ is #1. California doesn't even make top 5.
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Old 05-30-2019, 04:30 PM
 
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Places like Nassau County & Westchester consistently come in # 2 on all those lists after San Francisco. Property taxes on a $300k home on Long Island will run on average $11k a year.


Commuting is NOT cheap. I pay $308 a month to go 30 minutes on a train.


NYC spends LESS on heat than SD? I highly doubt that, considering it's May & some nights this week we got into the 40's. Not all bldgs have utilities factored in.


People outside of NYC certainly do own cars (LI, Westchester, NJ & even the boros).
I co-sign on this
I have ac couple of cousins that live in Connecticut and commute to NYC for work. They save a little on housing but everything else there is just as expensive as NYC
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