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Behaviour is our only defense right about now until we know more.
Behave the way (actual) doctors tell us to (turn off your television, especially if you watch Fox - your health is literally compromised if you participate in that pseudo political entertainment venue.
Read valid sources. Read peer reviewed work. Check your state agency for local updates.
Ignoring valid sources for - “freedom” - welcome to death! Fine - unless your idiocy puts others at at risk. Learn. Learn how to learn.
Being young and/or healthy - COVID -19 laughs at you. If you don’t die, you may very well be the grand prize winner of serious long term health issues that aren’t minor, but life changing.
If you think driving with your eyes closed is reasonable - then you’re beyond help. And you will kill or permanently harm someone with your lack of decency. Or - get informed and do your part.
I didn't survive this far to be a guinea pig for some pharmaceutical. Read that the plasma therapy is showing a positive result. Doubt I want an infected person's plasma. Just doesn't sit well logically.
I'll be cautiously optimistic if a real medical wonder comes along without creating harm to certain organs. There is often a trade off...and I'd hate it to be a temporary relief to one problem in exchange for a permanent damage to another.
Here are the 2 articles I posted in one of the threads in the health section. The hospital, Virtua Health in Voorhees is associated with one of the Philly hospitals
VOORHEES – Virtua Health has reported “remarkable” recoveries for the first New Jersey residents to receive plasma transfusions for the treatment of COVID-19.
Two patients at Virtua Voorhees Hospital “are steadily recuperating from critical cases of COVID-19 after receiving convalescent plasma transfusions in the first week of April,” the health system said in a statement Tuesday.
"In just over a week, both individuals were successfully taken off ventilators and later discharged from the intensive care unit to the general medical floor," said Dr. Lukasz Polisiakiewicz, a Virtua physician who led a team of specialists in the effort.
Two patients — a 61-year-old man and a 63-year-old woman — who received convalescent plasma treatment for COVID-19 earlier this month were released from Virtua Voorhees Hospital this week, the health system announced.
I get a flu shot every year and still get the flu half the time.
I get the flu shot every year and have never had the flu in my 61 years. So what? One person's experience is just anecdotal. We still need large scale tests of a vaccine or treatment to prove that it's effective and safe. Personally if something reduced my chances of catching it by half, I'd be right up there at the had of the line for that. And I am every year at flu shot time.
Oh, that virus is a nasty devil. The blood clotting factor is bizarre. I read the other day an ER doc said he was using normal procedure to remove a brain clot, and another immediately formed. He couldn't believe his eyes. Damn thing is something out of the Twilight Zone.
Also, the propensity for clots may be another reason some people die so suddenly. Mathjak on this board has a dil who lost her father to COVID - 70's guy wasn't feeling well, had a slight fever, sat in his chair for a nap, and died. Meanwhile, his wife was already in hospital with COVID.
All that said, I don't think I'd be the first one on the bandwagon for a new vaccine. I'd prefer to wait a bit on that for effectiveness, side effects, etc. Although should I have the misfortune to contract this disease, I would certainly be open to plasma or Remdesevir or similar therapy. If it got to the point of a ventilator, I think I'd call it a day.
Meanwhile, I wear a mask the couple of times a month I have to leave the house. I've read enough to know that the mask protects me - as well as others.
I think that may be the reason for the people they are finding who died in their homes. The clot thing seems to kill the somewhat younger victims who aren't getting lung infections as easily as older people. They can breathe, so they don't go to the hospital, but they have a stroke or heart attack from a blood clot and that's it.
I get the flu shot every year and have never had the flu in my 61 years. So what? One person's experience is just anecdotal. We still need large scale tests of a vaccine or treatment to prove that it's effective and safe. Personally if something reduced my chances of catching it by half, I'd be right up there at the had of the line for that. And I am every year at flu shot time.
And I am the same as you, have never had a flu shot and rarely get the flu. You are right, it is all anecdotal.
Probably should rethink the flu shot, though. I tend to forget I am now in my 60s and entering that high-risk arena.
Was talking to a neighbor the other day who said she is working. I was surprised to hear that because I assumed she was a few years older than I am...and then she said her age, and she is two years younger.
It's not that I think I look younger--especially right now with two inches of grey roots--I just have this disconnect in my head where I don't realize I am as old as I am.
I have yet to read this in any of the Covid-19 threads. Doctors in NY have said that the virus attacks the blood more so then any organ. The fact that organs get damaged is a side effect to the blood damage. Blood clots are the result of the infected blood. Something else that they are finding since this is a blood virus the type of blood you have has major impact of the seriousness of the disease. A doctor right on the front line said on a news show that type "A" blood seems get the worst of the virus and type "O" gets the least of the disease. This virus is still new so after they have conclude their research more and better information will be available but until then this is all they got.
We all want to see some magic cure, either an effective treatment or a vaccine or both. Fauci has warned that a vaccine, if effective, will take at least 18 months. Considering the importance it would seem that lots of effort and money could speed this up. At least that is the dream; AKA, wishful thinking. Take a look at this video if you are interesting in understanding why a long lead time might be needed:
BTW, it find it interesting that Fauci is now talking positive about everything to do with Covid. He is even hoping that a vaccine will be available by January 2021. He is now also talking positively about Gilead's remdesivir, which at 2 previous studies have shown to have little or no effect. I suspect Fauci decided he was not likely to last very long and he would be fired or would be asked to step down. Now he has joined in on the positive, wishful thinking just short of Trump's dilusions. Anything is possible but it seems we are not going to see a quick end to Covid. Let us just hope we do not see the lockdowns end and a big increase in cases and deaths.
Too early to ask or answer those questions. Safety is determined before mass production. Safety is assessed and then efficacy, if any. Way too soon to be thinking about all of this.
I wouldn't worry about side effects into the future. Do you worry about side effects of any other vaccines or flu vaccine that you might have?
I have professional and educational experience in infectious disease. I am not holding my breath for a vaccine but of course do sincerely hope there is one. It can take quite a while. If flu vaccines each year are something like 50% effective, I don't know if I'd consider a new COVID vaccine as "potential protection better than nothing." Not sure I understand your concern as worded there. By the time you or I get a COVID vaccine, its efficacy will be pretty well known and assessed.
Take care.
A manufacturer wants to be indemnified for harm from the vaccine. I remember the swine flu vaccine paralyzed a certain number of individuals. My fingers tingled for a week after that injection.
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