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Old 03-31-2020, 10:45 AM
 
Location: NW Valley of the Sun
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How true. Our local newspaper, the Arizona Republic, has had a nonstop stream or ridiculous articles, nitpicking every move that our state leaders make regarding managing the virus. Suddenly all of the writers there are pandemic experts. Why the World Health Organization has not called on their vast knowledge is stunning.

I would cancel that miserable subscription except I would never hear the end of it from my wife. She likes the food coupons and the puzzles.
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Old 03-31-2020, 10:51 AM
 
Location: Omaha, Nebraska
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Is hypertension considered a co-morbidity in addition to a risk factor? Ie, is it really the hypertension or the various co-morbidities long standing hypertension causes (and may be undetected, particularly with untreated hypertension) that are the problem?
That's the scary part: hypertension, all by itself, increases the risk of a bad outcome in the event of a COVID-19 infection. It's not the other damage to the body that the hypertension may have caused long-term that's the problem, it's the hypertension itself.
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Old 03-31-2020, 11:29 AM
 
Location: NNV
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It seems to me that a lot of experts have popped up lately. Specifically, experts on the coronavirus, politics and the stock market. A lot of Joe six-pack types have it all figured out and I really shouldn't be listening to Dr. Fauci and Dr. Birks for coronavirus information.

Internet forums have all the vital stock market information and Sean Hannity is the only political source I need <eyeroll>

I am so grateful.
Yes, gosh the Las Vegas forum is a mess. Go take a look. On second thought, don't...spare yourselves the heartache. It will raise your blood pressure.
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Old 03-31-2020, 11:31 AM
 
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That's the scary part: hypertension, all by itself, increases the risk of a bad outcome in the event of a COVID-19 infection. It's not the other damage to the body that the hypertension may have caused long-term that's the problem, it's the hypertension itself.
Interesting. I haven’t read anything about studies on risk factors, just studies on co-morbidities. That would lead me (as a person with no medical training) to ask “how are the risk factors being identified?” Are people considered hypertensive when their BP is high on admission to the hospital with coved-19(which would lead me to wonder if the high BP is actually a result of the infection) or do they have to have a documented history of high BP?
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Old 03-31-2020, 12:36 PM
 
Location: Omaha, Nebraska
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Interesting. I haven’t read anything about studies on risk factors, just studies on co-morbidities. That would lead me (as a person with no medical training) to ask “how are the risk factors being identified?” Are people considered hypertensive when their BP is high on admission to the hospital with coved-19(which would lead me to wonder if the high BP is actually a result of the infection) or do they have to have a documented history of high BP?
Documented history of hypertension, in the cases I am familiar with.
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Old 03-31-2020, 12:57 PM
 
Location: Tricity, PL
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Has this pandemic created a lot of experts?
Oh yes! especially all those armchair experts on social media and Internet forums
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Old 03-31-2020, 01:28 PM
 
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Loved this thread because we got to hear from many experts just as the title implied.
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Old 03-31-2020, 02:48 PM
 
Location: SW Florida
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No one is completely sure, but t's by far and away the biggest single risk factor. It was initially thought that taking ACE inhibitors (a class of darug used to treat hypertension) might have been the risk factor rather than the hypertension itself, but now it looks like people with hypertension who aren't on ACE inhibitors are at equally great risk. Why hypertension is such a risk factor is one of the many mysteries of SARS-CoV-2 we haven't solved yet.
Is that controlled or uncontrolled hypertension?
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Old 03-31-2020, 03:26 PM
 
Location: Omaha, Nebraska
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Is that controlled or uncontrolled hypertension?
Both (which is scary). There's something about the fundamental pathophysiology of hypertension that COVID-19 likes (perhaps constitutionally increased levels of angiotensin-convertng enzyme 2, or some other derangement of the angiotensin-renin system, which may or may not be altered by the medications a patient is taking to treat their hypertension).

We just don't know enough yet to tease much in the way of answers out of the limited data we have. This paper offers a not-too-difficult review of what we know to date. Right now, we can't say much more than that hypertension (whether treated or untreated) is a risk factor.
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Old 03-31-2020, 03:46 PM
 
Location: In the Pearl of the Purchase, Ky
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One thing I was glad to see on C-D is a moderator of one forum posted for no more posts on the coronavirus. I used to like to get on the computer to get away from whatever's going on. But now, no matter what the forum is, it's all that's talked about. Yes, I know it's a serious deal. But it doesn't have to be every other word you type.
I'm not paranoid like a lot of these people. I get out and go to the store and I've gone fishing on a couple big lakes within 30 miles. Our governor says to get fresh air but don't congregate. Fishermen never stand within 6 feet of each other. As far as that goes, I can't even get the fish withing 6 feet of my hook! But I see no need to be paranoid. Just be careful and watch what you do and where you go.
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