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Old 04-05-2008, 11:34 AM
 
Location: Nashville, Tn
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No, I'm not trying to drag the Religion Forum into the gutter, I'm very serious. This is what I think. If I'm in a shopping mall or wherever and I happen to see an attractive woman there is a biological urge that happens in my mind whether I want it to or not. I believe our brains are just wired that way although men seem to exhibit this behavior far more than women being the sinful little pigs we are. Personally I see nothing wrong with feeling sexual attraction and I think it's a necessary part of our thinking if we're supposed to go forth and multiply as The Good Book points out. However if a person is married or in a relationship I think there needs to be some boundaries on lusting. I do believe in being faithful to a partner, not based on a religious conviction but on my own morals. I look at it this way, if you're married or not and you see someone attractive you're going to feel that sexual urge and I don't think that should be considered a sin. It's a very different matter if someone is going out of their way to feel this urge by such activity as looking at pornography on the internet even though they're married. I do see this as a betrayal of the relationship and I'm certain that millions of married men are doing this. My point in making this thread is that there needs to be a distinction made between normal feelings of desire and behavior that is detrimental to a relationship. For those of you who are religious do you feel that it's a sin to simply be attracted by someone under any circumstances or would you agree with my thoughts? I do believe that the Bible says that if you lust for someone you're committing fornication or adultery in your heart even if you don't engage in sexual activity. I completely disagree with that. What do you think?
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Old 04-05-2008, 11:41 AM
 
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No, having a lustful urge is not a sin, just as having an urge of hatred towards someone is not a sin. Or any other thing popping into your head. ENTERTAINING those thoughts, becomes sin. When you open your front door and say "Hey lust! Make yourself at home!" And you *dwell* on it. Then, it becomes a sin, and the extent depends on how long your dwell on it and how deeply.

You cannot control what pops into your head. Perhaps sometimes satan puts something there, or you are confronted with an attractive woman in the mall. THIS is your time to shine and glorify God, and push that thought away. Identify it, push it away, and fill your mind with something Godly. Now you have turned a potentially sinful situation into one glorifying God.
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Old 04-05-2008, 11:41 AM
 
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i think it's a natural hormonal feeling to see someone and find them attractive or more.
this is what i found in the dictionary under LUST
1. intense sexual desire or appetite.
2. uncontrolled or illicit sexual desire or appetite; lecherousness.

i think to feel attracted to someone, to want to be near them or be with them is different than lust. as it states lust is intense, uncontrolled, lechery. it's like someone that just cant control themselves.

you saw the woman, you felt attracted, you started to think what it would be like to be with her, and then you left it at that--but you didnt run over and jump on her...
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Old 04-05-2008, 11:54 AM
 
Location: Socialist Republik of Amerika
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Attraction and appreciation for beauty or uniqueness, or whatever is intrigueing is not lust.
Lust is desiring to have sexual or emotional relations with someone that is not set apart for you.
I can see beauty in many things, including the opposite sex, it becomes sin when i desire to have what is not given to me.

godspeed,

freedom
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Old 04-05-2008, 11:56 AM
 
Location: Just a few miles outside of St. Louis
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Good question, Montana. Personally, I don't think that there is anything wrong with "window shopping", (I'm married, not dead!), so long as I don't actually "sample the goods". For clarification though, I would have to say that if I were to dwell too much on said thoughts, that could become a problem, if it interfered with my relationship with my husband. I enjoy looking at a handsome gentleman, (just as my husband likes to see a pretty woman), but I have no intention of getting silly about it, either.
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Old 04-05-2008, 12:13 PM
 
Location: Western Cary, NC
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Lust is natural and looking at the thread on virgins I think I might have failed the Celtic Lady1's value system. I am with Montana on waiting periods being too long in life. No regrets on my end, Wife will hammer me sometimes on a spotted past, but as long as I keep things to looking only now I think I am OK. OK maybe I let my mind wonder a bit, but just the mind no hands. LOL
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Old 04-05-2008, 12:37 PM
 
Location: An absurd world.
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No, I'm not trying to drag the Religion Forum into the gutter, I'm very serious. This is what I think. If I'm in a shopping mall or wherever and I happen to see an attractive woman there is a biological urge that happens in my mind whether I want it to or not. I believe our brains are just wired that way although men seem to exhibit this behavior far more than women being the sinful little pigs we are. Personally I see nothing wrong with feeling sexual attraction and I think it's a necessary part of our thinking if we're supposed to go forth and multiply as The Good Book points out. However if a person is married or in a relationship I think there needs to be some boundaries on lusting. I do believe in being faithful to a partner, not based on a religious conviction but on my own morals. I look at it this way, if you're married or not and you see someone attractive you're going to feel that sexual urge and I don't think that should be considered a sin. It's a very different matter if someone is going out of their way to feel this urge by such activity as looking at pornography on the internet even though they're married. I do see this as a betrayal of the relationship and I'm certain that millions of married men are doing this. My point in making this thread is that there needs to be a distinction made between normal feelings of desire and behavior that is detrimental to a relationship. For those of you who are religious do you feel that it's a sin to simply be attracted by someone under any circumstances or would you agree with my thoughts? I do believe that the Bible says that if you lust for someone you're committing fornication or adultery in your heart even if you don't engage in sexual activity. I completely disagree with that. What do you think?
I think lust is natural.

Don't blame humans. Blame the growth hormones put in our meats.
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Old 04-05-2008, 12:54 PM
 
Location: Western Cary, NC
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I think lust is natural.

Don't blame humans. Blame the growth hormones put in our meats.
Hi Haaziq, I think my lusting out dated the hormone in our meats problem. I had my own hormone issue . I need one these emoticons with horns I guess, but looking back maybe the smile works just as well. I am sure I will get a head bonk from wife on this one.
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Old 04-05-2008, 01:02 PM
 
Location: An absurd world.
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Hi Haaziq, I think my lusting out dated the hormone in our meats problem. I had my own hormone issue . I need one these emoticons with horns I guess, but looking back maybe the smile works just as well. I am sure I will get a head bonk from wife on this one.
I don't think the meats are the problem, but I do think they make children grow faster these days.

The whole issue has no effect on me anyway. I'm a vegan.
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Old 04-05-2008, 01:24 PM
 
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I think the "guilt trip" religion has associated with sexual sin has become a bit much. No one knows the "right" answer. During Mass about a month ago, a priest talked about how much consternation there is about sexual sinning...that this is the bulk of what he hears in the confessional.

I think that even lust is NOT sinful, sometimes things "pop into your head" ...and they dont' exit that quickly. So, this makes one a horrible person? I don't think so. It's when you do something a little more toward the "wrong," such as an illicit sexual relationship with a married person, then the whole thing tends toward the sinful.

Enough of the fire and brimstone...
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