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Old 10-18-2017, 10:41 AM
 
Location: Oklahoma
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This is a point I try to make often...being in love with an idea, a hope in an invisible Being from stories is
'ok', I guess. I'm not knocking it exactly....but there's more!!!! And it breeds untruths.

To truly love this Being...you must know 'Him' up-close and personally, intimately.
Otherwise it's like saying you love the puppy that you have a photo of that you will be getting
in a few more weeks.
But, is that truly ' love'? Love is being with the puppy thru thick and thin, knowing his personality,
playing with him, forgiving him...but mainly getting to know him.

Saying this is my way of encouraging people to sit in stillness and know God, intimately.
And that is why I enjoy atheists more, than those that talk dogma, rules, hellish and 'holier-than-thou' concepts to me.
When I was a believer it was common for me to talk to god for guidance and comfort. To do so now would seem silly. I now tend to be more focused on handling my affairs as apposed to leaving them to an imaginary being. Nothing wrong with finding comfort in faith, but it is not wise to turn ones needs over to them.
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Old 10-18-2017, 12:17 PM
 
Location: Southwestern, USA, now.
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When I was a believer it was common for me to talk to god for guidance and comfort. To do so now would seem silly.
I can see that...talking 'to' God...if you don't know if He is even there!
That is why rock solid, direct experience of this Omnipresent Spirit, I say, is better than not.
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Old 10-18-2017, 03:35 PM
 
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If civilization ended tomorrow, mankind would not. We would revert to whatever level of animal-ism was necessary for survival -- and rebuild civilization from there. Our opposable thumbs and prefontal cortex (or something brain-wise. Dammit Jim, I'm an animist, not an anatomist!) would demand no less.

But love is the emotional oil that makes the frustration and pain of childbirth and rearing, ultimately life's sweetest reward - and not a necessary chore to ensure the future.
yup,

I understood "love" as a seriously needed subroutine as soon as I looked at my first. Well, for our type of life anyway. We just are not that advanced in my opinion. yet.
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Old 10-18-2017, 08:21 PM
 
Location: City-Data Forum
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I would take it further and say the meaning of life is to share a loving relationship with our creator, who I believe is Yahweh.
How were you created by Yahweh, I thought your parents had free-will to choose when to copulate.
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Old 10-18-2017, 08:41 PM
 
Location: Free State of Texas
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How were you created by Yahweh? I thought your parents had free-will to choose when to copulate.
Parents don’t create-they beget. The creator makes life.
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Old 10-18-2017, 08:54 PM
 
Location: City-Data Forum
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Parents don’t create-they beget. The creator makes life.
How does that make any sense in regards to the idea of "free-will"?

If your parents had free-will, did Yahweh make them beget you because he planned on "creating" your body out of the atoms he "planned" for you (or your mother) to eat? Or were you and your genes going to be born somewhere else if your parents hadn't done what they did?


Or are you saying you are actually a disembodied spirit being forced to inhabit a random arbitrary body, and that you'd be "you" even if you had been born to different parents or ate different things? In which case, when were you "alive" in such a way?
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Old 10-18-2017, 09:02 PM
 
Location: Free State of Texas
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How does that make any sense in regards to the idea of "free-will"?

If your parents had free-will, did Yahweh make them beget you because he planned on "creating" your body out of the atoms he "planned" for you (or your mother) to eat? Or were you and your genes going to be born somewhere else if your parents hadn't done what they did?


Or are you saying you are actually a disembodied spirit being forced to inhabit a random arbitrary body, and that you'd be "you" even if you had been born to different parents or ate different things? In which case, when were you "alive" in such a way?
God created life originally and gave us a way to continue life from one to another generation. God is omniscient and sovereign.
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Old 10-18-2017, 09:24 PM
 
Location: Ontario, Canada
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God created life originally and gave us a way to continue life from one to another generation. God is omniscient and sovereign.
And he authorized pamphlets written by anonymous, super-spiritualized scribes who channeled him thousands of years ago and then everyone forgot how to do it. So, VERY lucky those anonymous scribes wrote those pamphlets!

And super, colossal bonus that Constantine got a bunch of bishops together because of his Mom's whining and they had a meeting and gave names to the anonymous scribes and decided which ones were really channeling god and which ones had a wrong #.

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