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I guess you believe God should allow evil men to run the earth and slaughter the innocent. Is that your idea of a God of compassion?
If he does exist, he does allow evil men to run the earth and slaughter the innocent. Have you looked around lately ? Ask the people of Darfur where god is at the moment, or the kids in the sweatshops of Asia, the women and the kids who end up being traded for sex on the streets of Manila or Calcutta.
War, famine, poverty, exploitation human trafficking , paedophilia, rape, add natural disasters and your god is starting to sound like a psychopathic serial killer.
An omnipotent deity who lets his innocent children suffer at the hands of murderers and war-mongering men all this horror is nothing short of a monster.
He is supposed to be our loving father. Where ? How ? I don't know about you but my father would have intervened had I tried to kill someone and would certainly not have watched me be killed or raped whilst he crossed his arms and looked. And don't give me the party-line on free will.
I've heard it before and it still makes no sense.
If there is a god and he lets all those things happen because of some non interventionist rubbish, then he is no god worthy of respect.
You believe in God so I guess you have to believe God allows all all the terrible things people endure on a daily basis.
Let me guess. It's because he loves us so much that he lets us starve, die in appalling pain and loneliness, be abused, violated, murdered, battered and defeated all the time.
Millions and millions of innocent, good decent human beings every day get to live in hell on earth but your god is just and loving and compassionate towards his children ?!?!?!?!?!
Funny on how many greedy, violent, vile human beings die at a very old age, having had a life of ease,perfect health and luxury whilst the good ones get rewarded with nothing.
It sounds to me as god is allowing this to happen. Mysterious ways just doesn't cut it as an argument.
If he does exist, he does allow evil men to run the earth and slaughter the innocent. Have you looked around lately ? Ask the people of Darfur where god is at the moment, or the kids in the sweatshops of Asia, the women and the kids who end up being traded for sex on the streets of Manila or Calcutta.
War, famine, poverty, exploitation human trafficking , paedophilia, rape, add natural disasters and your god is starting to sound like a psychopathic serial killer.
An omnipotent deity who lets his innocent children suffer at the hands of murderers and war-mongering men all this horror is nothing short of a monster.
He is supposed to be our loving father. Where ? How ? I don't know about you but my father would have intervened had I tried to kill someone and would certainly not have watched me be killed or raped whilst he crossed his arms and looked. And don't give me the party-line on free will.
I've heard it before and it still makes no sense.
If there is a god and he lets all those things happen because of some non interventionist rubbish, then he is no god worthy of respect.
You believe in God so I guess you have to believe God allows all all the terrible things people endure on a daily basis.
Let me guess. It's because he loves us so much that he lets us starve, die in appalling pain and loneliness, be abused, violated, murdered, battered and defeated all the time.
Millions and millions of innocent, good decent human beings every day get to live in hell on earth but your god is just and loving and compassionate towards his children ?!?!?!?!?!
Funny on how many greedy, violent, vile human beings die at a very old age, having had a life of ease,perfect health and luxury whilst the good ones get rewarded with nothing.
It sounds to me as god is allowing this to happen. Mysterious ways just doesn't cut it as an argument.
All of those things have been going on since time began, Cain slew Abel.
Maybe the lesson is that man is suppose to learn how to treat eachother and unless we experience these atrocities, we just won't get it.
I love when a tragedy happens and the whole town or area turns its focus to the we rather than the me. The trauma is horrific, but the hearts are changed hopefully forever, toward loving and helping their brothers and sisters. God knows much better than we, He's been doing it for a long, long, time.
I bet if your child was brutally raped and murdered, you would think differently about a god? (I'm not wishing this on you or anyone so don't think I am, it's just hypothetical thing). How can you expect anyone who has horrible things happen to them to see god's goodness in it?
I bet if your child was brutally raped and murdered, you would think differently about a god? (I'm not wishing this on you or anyone so don't think I am, it's just hypothetical thing). How can you expect anyone who has horrible things happen to them to see god's goodness in it?
Now that hit a nerve, how do you know she wasn't....genius...
And thats when i relied on Him the most.
So you're saying this terrible thing really has happened to your daughter? And you never wondered why god allowed it? That to me is unreal. If a higher power allows terrible suffering by someone, he's not fair at all and certainly not loving. You give such credit to your god, he's all knowing and can do anything but refuses to, how cruel is that?...he just sits by and watches this? It's mindboggling to me.
I bet if your child was brutally raped and murdered, you would think differently about a god? (I'm not wishing this on you or anyone so don't think I am, it's just hypothetical thing). How can you expect anyone who has horrible things happen to them to see god's goodness in it?
That's not gods goodness that is the devil himself.Always remember that all men are sinners and those that do these things will be judged in my view.But by the same standards;why would they believe in the man's laws after somethng like that?Why even believe in civilization? Why not just go out and seek revenge? It's all about belief really.We are a nation that believes in laws and you need to lok where those laws come from.They didn't come from some worldly law professor or scientist.Basically the ideas came from the bible and specifically the ten commandments.God of course gives you the freewill to not believe and go about you way. Wihout freewill you would have no character and he would love you as he does the animals. He didn't even spare his own son jesus pai on earth; but he loved him.Just as he loves those that go into a fire to save a stranger.With what you say ;no one would go into a fire to save anyone else. It would be everyone for themselves; a true secular world.
So you're saying this terrible thing really has happened to your daughter? And you never wondered why god allowed it? That to me is unreal. If a higher power allows terrible suffering by someone, he's not fair at all and certainly not loving. You give such credit to your god, he's all knowing and can do anything but refuses to, how cruel is that?...he just sits by and watches this? It's mindboggling to me.
Because god is a cosmic voyeur. Maybe god gets his thrills this way.
Only by experiencing bad times can one discover how useless god is.
Like the familiar song lyric; "nobody knows you when you're down and out".
Or, when times get bad you find out who your real friends are.
And they are not those who merely watch.
I bet if your child was brutally raped and murdered, you would think differently about a god? (I'm not wishing this on you or anyone so don't think I am, it's just hypothetical thing). How can you expect anyone who has horrible things happen to them to see god's goodness in it?
This would be awful and one of the most horrible things anyone could go through, but I do believe with God ALL things are possible, and He will give His children the power and strength go get this.
If he does exist, he does allow evil men to run the earth and slaughter the innocent. Have you looked around lately ? Ask the people of Darfur where god is at the moment, or the kids in the sweatshops of Asia, the women and the kids who end up being traded for sex on the streets of Manila or Calcutta.
War, famine, poverty, exploitation human trafficking , paedophilia, rape, add natural disasters and your god is starting to sound like a psychopathic serial killer.
An omnipotent deity who lets his innocent children suffer at the hands of murderers and war-mongering men all this horror is nothing short of a monster.
He is supposed to be our loving father. Where ? How ? I don't know about you but my father would have intervened had I tried to kill someone and would certainly not have watched me be killed or raped whilst he crossed his arms and looked. And don't give me the party-line on free will.
I've heard it before and it still makes no sense.
If there is a god and he lets all those things happen because of some non interventionist rubbish, then he is no god worthy of respect.
You believe in God so I guess you have to believe God allows all all the terrible things people endure on a daily basis.
Let me guess. It's because he loves us so much that he lets us starve, die in appalling pain and loneliness, be abused, violated, murdered, battered and defeated all the time.
Millions and millions of innocent, good decent human beings every day get to live in hell on earth but your god is just and loving and compassionate towards his children ?!?!?!?!?!
Funny on how many greedy, violent, vile human beings die at a very old age, having had a life of ease,perfect health and luxury whilst the good ones get rewarded with nothing.
It sounds to me as god is allowing this to happen. Mysterious ways just doesn't cut it as an argument.
One common misconception needs to be cleared up first.
Many people think of Almighty God as the ruler of this world, the one who is in direct control of everything.
1 John 5:19 states: “The whole world is lying in the power of the wicked one.”
Jesus Christ identified him as Satan the Devil, whom he called “the ruler of the world.” (John 14:30) Satan is cruel, deceptive, and hateful—traits that underlie much of the suffering that people experience.
How would a loving and capable mom or dad feel if he was publicly accused of lying to his children, abusing his authority over them, and withholding good things from them? Would they disprove those slanderous accusations by physically assaulting his accuser? No!! By reacting in such a manner, They might give credibility to the accusations. This helps explain God’s way of handling a challenge raised against him at the dawn of human history in a place called Eden.
One of God’s spirit sons, motivated by the desire to be worshipped, told Eve that if she ate the forbidden fruit, she would not die. (Genesis 2:17; 3:1-5) Thus, this wicked angel, Satan, blatantly contradicted God, essentially calling him a liar! Satan also went on to accuse God of withholding vital knowledge from Adam and Eve. Humans, Satan implied, should be able to decide for themselves what is good and what is bad. Simply put, Satan accused God of being an unfit Ruler and Father and implied that he, Satan, could do a better job.
GOD could have destroyed the rebels on the spot. Such issues cannot be settled by violent retaliation. Keep in mind too that when Satan challenged God, millions of angels were listening. In fact an undisclosed number later joined Satan in his rebellion, making themselves demons.—Mark 1:34; 2 Peter 2:4; Jude 6.
Satan founded a family that was not truly independent but under his authority. Influenced, knowingly or unknowingly, by their “father,” the Devil, this family would choose its own goals and standards of conduct. (John 8:44)
Mankind, alienated from God and misled by Satan, has built a world system that breeds more and more misery and hopelessness. Even the earth itself is being ruined! Mankind has built a world system of things, trying all kinds of rulership and human rules. Wars, famines, natural disasters, sickness, and death have plagued mankind, causing “futility,” “pain,” and “groaning,” just as the Bible states.—Romans 8:19-22; Ecclesiastes 8:9.
‘Why has God not prevented tragedies?’ Really, that would be an injustice, and it would cloud the issue by making it seem that rebelling against God is without consequence.
If he does exist, he does allow evil men to run the earth and slaughter the innocent. Have you looked around lately ? Ask the people of Darfur where god is at the moment, or the kids in the sweatshops of Asia, the women and the kids who end up being traded for sex on the streets of Manila or Calcutta.
War, famine, poverty, exploitation human trafficking , paedophilia, rape, add natural disasters and your god is starting to sound like a psychopathic serial killer.
An omnipotent deity who lets his innocent children suffer at the hands of murderers and war-mongering men all this horror is nothing short of a monster.
He is supposed to be our loving father. Where ? How ? I don't know about you but my father would have intervened had I tried to kill someone and would certainly not have watched me be killed or raped whilst he crossed his arms and looked. And don't give me the party-line on free will.
I've heard it before and it still makes no sense.
If there is a god and he lets all those things happen because of some non interventionist rubbish, then he is no god worthy of respect.
You believe in God so I guess you have to believe God allows all all the terrible things people endure on a daily basis.
Let me guess. It's because he loves us so much that he lets us starve, die in appalling pain and loneliness, be abused, violated, murdered, battered and defeated all the time.
Millions and millions of innocent, good decent human beings every day get to live in hell on earth but your god is just and loving and compassionate towards his children ?!?!?!?!?!
Funny on how many greedy, violent, vile human beings die at a very old age, having had a life of ease,perfect health and luxury whilst the good ones get rewarded with nothing.
It sounds to me as god is allowing this to happen. Mysterious ways just doesn't cut it as an argument.
If you think it's bad now waith until God removes the chruch. The evil you see taking place is nothing compared to what is going to happen. My responce was to the actions that God did in the past to help curb that evil, and the one I was responding to felt that God should not to get involove at all. Any evil that God tried to stop in the past was said by him to be cruel, yet the men who did the evil were not call out at all. It was the same kind of people that nailed God to a cross that do the evil we see in the world today, and yes, God is allowing it to happen because God has given man the free will to choose. Yet in the end everyone who does not know God will have to give an account for his actions, and for all evil men there will be no escape, and an eternity to think about what they have done.
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War, famine, poverty, exploitation human trafficking , paedophilia, rape, add natural disasters and your god is starting to sound like a psychopathic serial killer. 
