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If you read the old testament books, it is hard not to draw that conclusion. If there was only one god, then why did that particular god have to fight so hard and viciously to be the top god? And then insist on pain of death that people believe he is the only god. Seems that if there is only one god, it would be an easy sell. But then there's the equally powerful Satan within this same religion that can do all sorts of magical god things....but he's not a god. Just doesn't stand up to any sort of logic.
Just like the Adam and Eve story. First and only people but once they are expelled from Eden, they meet other people. Hmmm. So where the f... did those other people come from?
That's the problem in believing literally what was originally a political story written by a cabal of Persian priests out of an assortment of creation myths for their own political reasons some 2600 years ago.
It depends on who you talk to. Maybe someone that has already died can answer that for you. If there is a "One and Only, " he is sure to be called by more names than just one regardless of what the chirstion bible says.
These topics are for the sake of entertainment for me because I love history and how religion plays a great role in how it shaped societies and the course of history. It's not surprising I am a History Channel junkie. I love putting things in proper perspective because I have always been the curious kid who just cannot follow just for following sake. I need a valid reason why.
For example, I was born on an island where from since I knew myself my people would go buck wild during a week of revelry, something we call carnival or bacchanal. For many, they just knew they grew up and rolled right into celebrating the event. I was the type of kid who would want to know why we do it and where did the tradition come from. Well you must know how fascinated I was that the custom came from 7,000 miles across the sea, an annual celebration in honor of the Roman/Greek god Bacchus/Dionysus and 2,300 years later the name of the celebration still retains his name in my own culture. To many, irrelevant. To me, fascinating.
So when I start these topics it's not to "attack" Christianity or religion per se as one board member put it. Sure, religion may not come out in a favorable light and people can get very nasty when their precious beliefs are questioned and/or ridiculed, but I just enjoy placing them in proper perspectives for better understanding.
If you read the old testament books, it is hard not to draw that conclusion. If there was only one god, then why did that particular god have to fight so hard and viciously to be the top god? And then insist on pain of death that people believe he is the only god. Seems that if there is only one god, it would be an easy sell. But then there's the equally powerful Satan within this same religion that can do all sorts of magical god things....but he's not a god. Just doesn't stand up to any sort of logic.
Just like the Adam and Eve story. First and only people but once they are expelled from Eden, they meet other people. Hmmm. So where the f... did those other people come from?
That's the problem in believing literally what was originally a political story written by a cabal of Persian priests out of an assortment of creation myths for their own political reasons some 2600 years ago.
Most certainly. I think the problem is that many people read the Bible within a vacuum also thinking the contents being read occurred within a vacuum.
I like the fact you mentioned 'political' because frankly, that is what it was. We often think of the various theological squabbles and wars that shaped the forming of the New Testament canon and forget that the same thing happened (in a sense) amongst the ancient Israelites. There was constant war between the nationalists (Yahweists) and those who sought to seduce the nation with foreign influence by way of foreign gods like Baal and Molech, for example. Those who won out wrote the story and the story was very simple. When we served Yahweh, we prospered and defeated our enemies. When we forsook him for other gods, we suffered and were humiliated and if we suffered and were humiliated, it must have been something we did wrong. There were poltical (read: monetary) gains to be made when you focused the people's attention on ONE god. One temple, one priesthood, one treasury to loot.
This kind of thinking has given rise to radicals and fanatics in the realm of religion from since time began and we are seeing it here in the U.S also. There are those who feel that their particular country has lost a certain swagger or prominence because they have lost their way with some god. When they start feeling that way, they start preaching a call back to whichever god they think their people has forsaken. Some will go overboard ad help out this god and might start a revolution or resort to terrorism to make sure people are frightened into their narrow view of how things ought to be. Consider the Islamic revolution under Ayatolla Khomeni in Iran a few decades back.
Originally Posted by TwentyFourSevenMy post wasn't an attack, just a question. To me it doesn't matter either.
No sir Was not implying your post was an attack. I was saying that one other board member felt threatened that threads questioning Christianity/religion = attack. At least that is what I gathered and she/he will be here later to rip me a new one. lol
I see Jehovah as one of the desert gods like Allah.
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Does it matter?
To me it doesn't matter either.
