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Old 12-20-2007, 02:24 PM
 
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Interesting comments from the Archbiship.



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The Archbishop of Canterbury, Dr. Rowan Williams, dismissed the Christmas story of the Three Wise Men yesterday as nothing but "legend."

There was scant evidence for the Magi, and none at all that there were three of them, or that they were kings, he said. All the evidence that existed was in Matthew’s Gospel.

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http://www.foxnews.com/story/0,2933,317550,00.html
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Old 12-20-2007, 02:28 PM
 
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This is the same 'Archbishop' that questions God's existence, right?

Can't say I'm surprised. Many people don't believe the bible, that doesn't make it unbelievable.

http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/main...portaltop.html
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Old 12-20-2007, 03:03 PM
 
Location: Santa Monica
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1 Corinthians 13.11
"When I was a child, I spake as a child, I understood as a child, I thought as a child: but when I became a man, I put away childish things."
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Old 12-20-2007, 03:16 PM
 
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1 Corinthians 13.11
"When I was a child, I spake as a child, I understood as a child, I thought as a child: but when I became a man, I put away childish things."
Yep.

You believe like Paul now, ParkTwain?

Praise God!
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Old 12-20-2007, 03:18 PM
 
Location: Just a few miles outside of St. Louis
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Well, not to suport the Archbishop, on the legend part of this article, but there actually isn't a mention of a number of the Wisemen, nor were they kings. At least, not as I just re-read it, in Matthew. I'd always heard that the number came from the number of gifts: gold, frankincense, and myrrh. Did I miss something, or is the story different somewhere else?
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Old 12-20-2007, 03:59 PM
 
Location: Indiana
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Well, not to suport the Archbishop, on the legend part of this article, but there actually isn't a mention of a number of the Wisemen, nor were they kings. At least, not as I just re-read it, in Matthew. I'd always heard that the number came from the number of gifts: gold, frankincense, and myrrh. Did I miss something, or is the story different somewhere else?
That portion of what he said is not problematic. If we also look closely, it says that the wise men came to the house, not the stable. Most people believe that they arrived when Jesus was over a year old.

The problem I have with his statements is that he disregards the virgin birth which is crucial to the Messianic prophecies being fulfilled.

The other thing that gets me is his comment about the star not hovering over the stable because "stars just don't behave like that." Well, duh! If it was a normal star, behaving like a star "should" behave, would anyone have taken notice? What would have been miraculous about that? By definition, a miracle is "an effect or extraordinary event in the physical world that surpasses all known human or natural powers and is ascribed to a supernatural cause." People want to explain away miracles as "scientifically impossible". If they were scientifically possible, they wouldn't be miracles. I think his comments portray a sad lack of faith for someone with his title and position.
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Old 12-20-2007, 04:46 PM
 
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Yep.

You believe like Paul now, ParkTwain?

Praise God!

You think the wisdom behind that verse pertains only to believers? Think again.
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Old 12-20-2007, 04:59 PM
 
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You think the wisdom behind that verse pertains only to believers? Think again.
So you're saying you're gonna pick and choose what to apply to your life that Paul wrote!!

How dare you!! Isn't that what you accuse belivers of!!
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