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just in case everyone hasn't heard this before, here is the question that is commonly asked:
could god create a rock so big that he couldn't lift it?
or another is:
could god create a being more powerful than himself?
either way, the basic argument is that if god is all powerful, he could do anything, so if there is something god can't do, then god isn't really all powerful.
i know this question is dismissed pretty often, but i have never really seen it on a forum. i was just wondering what the hole in this argument is/why it is dismissed.
If God is already the most powerful being, he can't make a more powerful being; otherwise he wouldn't be the most powerful anymore.
well, that's what i thought, but then it occurred to me that that is something that god can't do, so if god can't do something, he isn't all powerful either.
i guess that was what threw me off.
but basically what you are saying is that it is a logical impossibility to have something more powerful than all powerful?
just in case everyone hasn't heard this before, here is the question that is commonly asked:
could god create a rock so big that he couldn't lift it?
or another is:
could god create a being more powerful than himself?
either way, the basic argument is that if god is all powerful, he could do anything, so if there is something god can't do, then god isn't really all powerful.
i know this question is dismissed pretty often, but i have never really seen it on a forum. i was just wondering what the hole in this argument is/why it is dismissed.
Considering the laws of logic in our universe...
Infinity plus 1 is still infinity.
Considering the laws of logic in our universe...
Infinity plus 1 is still infinity.
When G is omnipotent and meets D who is omnipotent + 1, than G lost the status of being omnipotent to D.
Right?
I mean it is just like in Highlander: There can only be one. If everyone is omnipotent, than nobody is omnipotent.
Ehh. The ability to do "anything" is not omnipotence, because "anything" includes courses of action that are defined by weakness. Omnpotence is the ability to do all things which require power (Omni=all Potente=power). When you ask God to fail (which is what you are doing in both of these questions) you ask him to do something that requires a lack of power. The entire idea is based upon a false definition of omnipotence.
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If God is already the most powerful being, he can't make a more powerful being; otherwise he wouldn't be the most powerful anymore.
Yep, ya took the words outta mah mouth.
If everyone is omnipotent, than nobody is omnipotent.
But it is a perfect philosophical exercise.
