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Not true. The very basis for Christianity is self-examination.
Self-examination through an outside source.
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Originally Posted by jimmiej
One cannot come to Christ without understanding our own sin.
My point exactly. An outside source. My question is can a Christian live a "Christian way of life" even after learning that their savior was not a savior at all? Many atheists know the value of love and compassion without trying to please a "God". Can a Christian do the same? Serious question here; would like a serious answer please.
Last edited by urbancharlotte; 08-26-2010 at 12:39 PM..
Not true. The very basis for Christianity is self-examination. One cannot come to Christ without understanding our own sin.
Where is this self-examination evident?
Or, do christians 'self-examen' themselves and find no faults?
Do christians ever feel a conscience about having treated another person (like bearing false witness, name calling) in an unjust way? Probably not.
We all have different faiths, different beliefs, and different minds. What is the truth for some is not the truth for others. You are free to see things in your way but understand that not everyone sees things in the same light. You can attribute everything to God. Not all of us do. However, to say that unless we can convince you of something that you have absolutely no desire to be convinced of - then it cannot be true - is pointless. I'm not going to ask you to convince me to believe in God because I don't think that you can. I also don't believe that I can convince you of my beliefs - and I'm okay with that. I don't need you to accept my beliefs in order for me to believe them. Aren't you confident enough in your own faith that even if we disagree - you can still believe that you are right? When you ask someone to explain something to you - with no intention of understanding anything that they have to say - what is the point?
Self-examination through an outside source.My point exactly. An outside source. My question is can a Christian live a "Christian way of life" even after learning that their savior was not a savior at all? Many atheists know the value of love and compassion without trying to please a "God". Can a Christian do the same? Serious question here; would like a serious answer please.
No. I am nothing without Christ. He is my Savior. He alone is my avenue to God.
And you never will because you refuse to. You can't see anything with your eyes shut. You can't hear anything with your ears plugged. You can't understand anything with a closed mind.
I'm not saying that you can't believe what you believe. I just don't understand why you keep asking questions, then sticking your fingers in you ears saying, "I can't hear you! I can't hear you! Therefore - you are wrong!!!"
Some of us will never see eye to eye. You are free to believe what you believe. Why not just leave it at that.
Where is this self-examination evident? Or, do christians 'self-examen' themselves and find no faults?
Do christians ever feel a conscience about having treated another person (like bearing false witness, name calling) in an unjust way? Probably not.
Actually, Christianity teaches that all are worthless sinners in God's eyes.
I do understand, in reality, there are some Christians that are not Christ-like. I hope it has not been a majority. I'm sorry you've been given the wrong impression. Christ-like actions don't always make news & usually go on behind the scenes.
And you never will because you refuse to. You can't see anything with your eyes shut. You can't hear anything with your ears plugged. You can't understand anything with a closed mind.
I'm not saying that you can't believe what you believe. I just don't understand why you keep asking questions, then sticking your fingers in you ears saying, "I can't hear you! I can't hear you! Therefore - you are wrong!!!"
Some of us will never see eye to eye. You are free to believe what you believe. Why not just leave it at that.
I'm perfectly willing to listen. Let's hear the best you got. What is the source of goodness?
I'm perfectly willing to listen. Let's hear the best you got. What is the source of goodness?
I believe it is within our own hearts. You do not. You believe it is God. I am okay with this. I have no problem with you believing in God. However, just as I will never convince you of my beliefs - you will never convince me of yours. I at least can understand where you are coming from. I can understand why you believe what you believe. I am able to respect you and leave you to your faith. Please do not keep asking people for answers when you have no intention of even listening to them or ever seeing them as valid. If you think that you are right and that nothing else can even possibly be right - what is the point of asking?
I am okay with you thinking that. Your unwillingness to understand anyone but yourself makes no difference to me. Good luck with your life!
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