To visit property same as to show property? (agent, contract, insurance)
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I am the buyer, signed the contract. The listing agent told my agent that , even the contract has been signed and the home is vacant, every time if we need to check some defect or inspect an aspect of the property is a "showing" property, so we need to get their permission. I understand the showing is normally before the contract signed. To visit the property is normall procedure to fulfil a contract, why even for a vacant property we need to have permission to visit ? Does it mean to visit is same as to show? Our agent said the local "permission" rule only applies for showing, nothing about visiting after contract signed.
In general, is this state by state issue?
The listing agent told my agent that , even the contract has been signed and the home is vacant, every time if we need to check some defect or inspect an aspect of the property is a "showing" property, so we need to get their permission. I understand the showing is normally before the contract signed. To visit the property is normall procedure to fulfil a contract, why even for a vacant property we need to have permission to visit ? Does it mean to visit is same as to show? Our agent said the local "permission" rule only applies for showing, nothing about visiting after contract signed.
In general, is this state by state issue?
Don't get hung up on the labels.
It is someone else's property, and you need to give notice and get their permission to enter.
Yes the title is still seller's title. But my understanding is to access property is part of fulfiling the contract, it implies reasonable access to the property, especially when it is empty. Yes we can have blanket agreement for the issue beforehand, but to ask for permission for every visiting is excessive and impractical, like in repairing process, reinpection process etc.
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Originally Posted by MikeJaquish
Don't get hung up on the labels.
It is someone else's property, and you need to give notice and get their permission to enter.
Yes the title is still seller's title. But my understanding is to access property is part of fulfiling the contract, it implies reasonable access to the property, especially when it is empty. Yes we can have blanket agreement for the issue beforehand, but to ask for permission for every visiting is excessive and impractical, like in repairing process, reinpection process etc.
No, it is neither excessive nor impractical. It is common and expected.
Respect your seller and his property, and it will be easier.
... but to ask for permission for every visiting is excessive and impractical, like in repairing process, reinpection process etc.
You're not asking for "permission", per se. You're giving them notice of your visit. It's not your house and the owners have insurance on the property. They need to know who is entering at any given time in case something goes wrong. What if water is left on? What if AC is down to 60 degrees on a hot summer day? The listing agent and owner deserve to know who is in their house. It's not for permission, but for general courtesy and notice.
Out here the buyer has specific reasons to enter the property like inspections, repair reinspects, and final walkthrough. Here we just email the agent the time we intend to be on the property for these ie inspection scheduled Tues at 9am. If it is something other than what is listed in the contract then we need to get approval from the seller.
Last edited by Silverfall; 10-22-2013 at 09:27 PM..
Yes, you have sensible advice. We're not stranger to enter someone's home, we're one of the parties. We should let seller/his agent know we are/were there and bear proper responsibility too. Actually this is would-be our home and we have more keen interest than seller, so to speak.
I just hope some rule will be explicitly addressed on this, just like "showing" rule before any offers.
By the way, all accesses are due to inspection issues, some of which isnt simple one, like environmetal factor, nothing like curiosity discovery.
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Originally Posted by FalconheadWest
You're not asking for "permission", per se. You're giving them notice of your visit. It's not your house and the owners have insurance on the property. They need to know who is entering at any given time in case something goes wrong. What if water is left on? What if AC is down to 60 degrees on a hot summer day? The listing agent and owner deserve to know who is in their house. It's not for permission, but for general courtesy and notice.
You're not getting what people are saying. It matters not whether it's for a showing or inspection; you are entering someone else's property and need to give notice/get permission. That you are entering for inspections as provided for in the contract is irrelevant - you are still entering someone else's property.
Just suppose that an inspection reveals an issue you don't want to deal with and you back out of the contract. The home is not your future home until you turn over the money and the deed is recorded. Until that deed is recorded, it is someone else's property and you need to give notice/get permission.
You're not getting what people are saying. It matters not whether it's for a showing or inspection; you are entering someone else's property and need to give notice/get permission. That you are entering for inspections as provided for in the contract is irrelevant - you are still entering someone else's property.
Just suppose that an inspection reveals an issue you don't want to deal with and you back out of the contract. The home is not your future home until you turn over the money and the deed is recorded. Until that deed is recorded, it is someone else's property and you need to give notice/get permission.
There's the answer!
Pay the seller for the house, and access is at your whim, for whatever reason.
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