The Rain in Portland (Jefferson: 2013, house, live)

[EnricoV]

Originally Posted by roneb

Are you seriously kidding me about calling this poster out on their easily verified link? The Western Regional Climate Center works closely with the NOAA and is the first resource meteorologists throughout the west go to for historical weather data. It is the most objective and "factual" resource they possibly could have cited!

If it says 68 clear days, you can be pretty damn sure that's what it is. The problem is that you'd need to check another page for partly cloudy days or days with precipitation. One thing is readily apparent in looking at the data and reinforces certain perceptions about Portland - Fully half of the clear days show up in July, August, and Sept. Take away lesson - winter has FAR FEWER "clear" days (average 2-3 days for Nov-May).

For me personally, having grown up in Montana and Alaska, I find it hard to take. Anchorage, Alaska was a great example. It actually has the reverse pattern, with few clear days in summer, but about twice as many in winter. For me personally, winter was much easier to take with more sun (even with fewer hours of daylight) and a blanket of snow covering everything that increased the ambient light on an overcast day.

I've said it before - it ain't the rain as much as the dark gray.

I'm sorry. Where on this "report" were the distinctions between gray and dark gray skies?

I don't care how great the group was that put those statistics together. They don't say anything as far as I'm concerned. As I said, just what to they represent? One year? Ten years? Last year? Forty years ago?

Objective? Factual? Maybe ... but it'd be nice, like I said, if they were verifiable statistics ... not just random numbers on a page.

[pdxMIKEpdx]

Could you provide us a link to the objective, factual, and verifiable data that you use?

[Beenhere4ever]

Why do people who LIVE in the city need any references at all?

[EnricoV]

Originally Posted by pdxMIKEpdx

Could you provide us a link to the objective, factual, and verifiable data that you use?

Since you couldn't tell he difference, I'm not quoting statistics.

[karlsch]

Originally Posted by pdxMIKEpdx

Could you provide us a link to the objective, factual, and verifiable data that you use?

It must be a site that doesn't confuse you with "a bunch of (random) numbers."

[HonuMan]

Originally Posted by Beenhere4ever

Why do people who LIVE in the city need any references at all?

Because people who DON'T live here ask, "What is the weather in Portland really like?," and responses range from "We don't see the sun for nine months straight, and it can rain continuously for days or weeks at a time" to "It's predominantly cloudy for nine months of the year, but we do get a lot of partly sunny or partly cloudy days -- especially during spring and autumn-- and the rain, when it falls, often is sporadic throught the day, and it's often very light rain." Those are two very different subjective viewpoints, depending on how sensitive one is to rain and cloud cover. References provide more objective viewpoints, depending on how the data were collected and are presented.

[Beenhere4ever]

Ah, nice to see that the spirit of the James G Blaine Society lives! I remember humorous stuff like "we have water up to the waist most of the year". You got Cali immigration anyway, but fun doesn't have to produce results. It is just fun.

[pdxMIKEpdx]

Originally Posted by EnricoV

Since you couldn't tell he difference, I'm not quoting statistics.

So how can we know that other peoples weather statistics are valid if you can't (or won't) provide any data to back up your opinion that they're not??

If you won't at least do that, then your statements about Portland weather are not factual, and are therefore opinions.
Then they are just as good or bad as the other guys opinions, so I guess there is no problem here?


We would all like to know the absolute objective, factual, verifiable truth about Portland weather, and where all that valuable information resides.

If you know, it's not fair for you to keep all that knowledge to yourself.

[pdxMIKEpdx]

Originally Posted by Beenhere4ever

Ah, nice to see that the spirit of the James G Blaine Society lives! I remember humorous stuff like "we have water up to the waist most of the year". You got Cali immigration anyway, but fun doesn't have to produce results. It is just fun.

Great Post!


From the James G Blaine Society Wiki page:

"We had a good summer last year. It came on a Sunday so lots of people got to enjoy it."

[LTtheKid]

Portland NWS shows the number of clear, partly cloudy, and cloudy days under their Observed Weather Reports.

National Weather Service - NWS Portland

Looking at that information, Portland hasn't had a single "clear" day in over two months, since October 8th.