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Old 04-16-2010, 10:09 AM
 
Location: Say-Town! Texas
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public school, its hard, we've all been there, either the bully or the bullied, we all have our chance to shine as the allstar or fail the test, get dumped by girl, and score a date to the prom.

so, if you child came home with a bloody nose from bullies at school, what would be your solution to this? teach him to fight?
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Old 04-16-2010, 10:31 AM
 
Location: Wisconsin
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public school, its hard, we've all been there, either the bully or the bullied, we all have our chance to shine as the allstar or fail the test, get dumped by girl, and score a date to the prom.

so, if you child came home with a bloody nose from bullies at school, what would be your solution to this? teach him to fight?
Take a page from the liberal playbook and try to understand what your child has done to make the bullies feel the need to beat your child.
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Old 04-16-2010, 10:43 AM
 
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public school, its hard, we've all been there, either the bully or the bullied, we all have our chance to shine as the allstar or fail the test, get dumped by girl, and score a date to the prom.

so, if you child came home with a bloody nose from bullies at school, what would be your solution to this? teach him to fight?

That is my intention. Moth Jr is still quite young. But when he is old enough, he will be instructed in boxing and possibly martial arts. He will be instilled with a simple doctrine- Never start crap and do not take any. Should I see that he is the bully, he will have me to deal with. And that ain't gonna be fun.
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Old 04-16-2010, 10:45 AM
 
Location: Sinking in the Great Salt Lake
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Take a page from the liberal playbook and try to understand what your child has done to make the bullies feel the need to beat your child.
Then give their parents money and hire a lawyer to protect the bully's rights?

My bully problems ended in 4th grade (back in the mid 80's) when I went apes#*t on our school bully one day in the plaground, just like Ralphie from "A Christmas Story" (it was my inspiration ). There was a trip to the principal and a note sent home to my parents, but that was the end of it, and the kid never bothered me again. I discovered personal confidence that day and it's served me well through my whole life.

That's how it's been for who knows how long.... but not anymore. Now they will suspend the kid fighting back, label him/her as a disturbed child, put them in juvenile court and load them up with a daily bucket of "calming" drugs. Ah, the liberal solution.

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Old 04-16-2010, 10:56 AM
 
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I would go to the school and explain exactly what happened and what you want to see happen. The school needs to keep an eye on the specific child and keep him away from the child he targets. The school needs to contact the bully's parents and let them know what happed and that it's not acceptable.

By the way, there is an approach to bullying that has been demonstrated through research to be effective. Check out Olweaus Bullying Program. It will not help this specific scenario, but I wish more schools were are of it.
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Old 04-16-2010, 11:03 AM
 
Location: Del Rio, TN
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Back in the day, the bully would eventually pick on the wrong guy and end up being used to wipe the floor. Pretty much took the wind out of their sails. The "bully thumper" got a pat on the back from the teacher(s) and life went on. (I used to spend summers bailing hay, suprised a couple of our bullies in the fall).

These days schools encourage bullying behavior by punishing the "good guy".

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Old 04-16-2010, 11:36 AM
 
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I would go to the school and explain exactly what happened and what you want to see happen. The school needs to keep an eye on the specific child and keep him away from the child he targets. The school needs to contact the bully's parents and let them know what happed and that it's not acceptable.

By the way, there is an approach to bullying that has been demonstrated through research to be effective. Check out Olweaus Bullying Program. It will not help this specific scenario, but I wish more schools were are of it.
That might work. The problem is then your kid is branded a tattle tale or someone too weak to fight his or her own battles and consequently loses face among peers.

Sad to say, the playground is a less-menacing variant of the penitentiary. The recipient of bullying most often needs to flatten the bully in front of everyone or at least fight back, even in a losing effort.

If parents' negligence has allowed their child to become a bully, word from the school may only go so far.
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Old 04-16-2010, 11:42 AM
 
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That might work. The problem is then your kid is branded a tattle tale or someone too weak to fight his or her own battles and consequently loses face among peers.

Sad to say, the playground is a less-menacing variant of the penitentiary. The recipient of bullying most often needs to flatten the bully in front of everyone or at least fight back, even in a losing effort.

If parents' negligence has allowed their child to become a bully, word from the school may only go so far.
I'm a fan of flattening the bully. Not everyone is able to do that and bullies frequently have many victims until they find that one kid that flattens him.

The tattle tale thing is a problem. Teachers and other adults use that too. The problem is that if the child can't take care of the bullying problem themselves, then you just send them back to be bullied. The truth is that the bully has some people that will go along with him and some that will watch. Those people will use the tattle tale label. There is most likely a large group that's sick of the bully too. It can be helpful to work with kids that you know would not be a part of the bullying and have them reach out to the child being bullied to provide a safe haven and support.
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Old 04-16-2010, 12:09 PM
 
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Then give their parents money and hire a lawyer to protect the bully's rights?

My bully problems ended in 4th grade (back in the mid 80's) when I went apes#*t on our school bully one day in the plaground, just like Ralphie from "A Christmas Story" (it was my inspiration ). There was a trip to the principal and a note sent home to my parents, but that was the end of it, and the kid never bothered me again. I discovered personal confidence that day and it's served me well through my whole life.

That's how it's been for who knows how long.... but not anymore. Now they will suspend the kid fighting back, label him/her as a disturbed child, put them in juvenile court and load them up with a daily bucket of "calming" drugs. Ah, the liberal solution.
I agree totally. Every kid goes through this stuff and it is a part of growing up. You really do discover personal confidence in these situations. That confidence sticks with you and enables you to overcome life's obstacles when you are up against them. Good post Chango!
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Old 04-16-2010, 12:10 PM
 
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Back in the day, the bully would eventually pick on the wrong guy and end up being used to wipe the floor. Pretty much took the wind out of their sails. The "bully thumper" got a pat on the back from the teacher(s) and life went on. (I used to spend summers bailing hay, suprised a couple of our bullies in the fall).

These days schools encourage bullying behavior by punishing the "good guy".
Another good post!
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