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"Ronald Reagan is just a little too far to the left for me."
- Eric Show*, San Diego Padres pitcher (and John Birch Society Member), around 1984
*Eric Show is the pitcher who threw the pitch to Pete Rose when Pete broke Ty Cobb's hit record in 1985. People may recall Show sitting on the mound while the game was stopped for this historic event.
Reagan used to be a democrat and switched to a republican in 1962.
Interesting. Isn't that about the time period when the republicans were transforming into the more right wing party they are today and the democrats were doing the opposite?
Interesting. Isn't that about the time period when the republicans were transforming into the more right wing party they are today and the democrats were doing the opposite?
Didn't the Gipper switch parties because he believed the Democrats were being far too soft on "Commies" and Soviet-influenced expansionism?
Interesting to see all this malcontent & hate for Reagan though. I was too young to recall the '70's, but wasn't that the era of hyperinflation, gas rationing & mandatory busing?
Didn't the Gipper switch parties because he believed the Democrats were being far too soft on "Commies" and Soviet-influenced expansionism?
Interesting to see all this malcontent & hate for Reagan though. I was too young to recall the '70's, but wasn't that the era of hyperinflation, gas rationing & mandatory busing?
The 70's had all kinds of issues and you don't need to have been old enough to remember that, just read the history (I'm not trying to sound sarcastic or mean here, that's just how it came out). The 70's is when the Vietnam war ended and all the debt that came with it. OPEC was having an attitude problem and people were wearing bell-bottoms. Ok that last one isn't relevant but it was still a problem LOL.
Interesting. Isn't that about the time period when the republicans were transforming into the more right wing party they are today and the democrats were doing the opposite?
RR was a Democrat but never a liberal, for those who may think differently. He also was not a ultra conservative as many think. He signed the abortion bill, but never thought it would turn out the way it did..
As for anyone thinking he wasn't right wing enough, these John Birchers were about as far out as some of the nuts we have now. As close to right wing as we are, especially hubby, John Bs no way...
The 70's had all kinds of issues and you don't need to have been old enough to remember that, just read the history (I'm not trying to sound sarcastic or mean here, that's just how it came out). The 70's is when the Vietnam war ended and all the debt that came with it. OPEC was having an attitude problem and people were wearing bell-bottoms. Ok that last one isn't relevant but it was still a problem LOL.
yep, mostly you are right, the bell bottoms were coming to an end by the 70s, they along with micro minis were late 60s, a little into the 70s.
smokingun, Reagan did switch parties mainly because of communism which he hated as we all know.\
Gentoo, you hit on some of the 70s problems but I think the Carter years were a disaster for even more reasons, inflation was out of control and took until the mid 80s to get under control, the Iran nightmere and handling of it cost him so much respect and his negative attitude hurt..
Reagan, who I love and admire came at the right time.
Didn't the Gipper switch parties because he believed the Democrats were being far too soft on "Commies" and Soviet-influenced expansionism?
Yep..there was also that other reason many democrats turned republican in the 50s-60s...don't know if you're familiar with it. This Reagan quote sums it up fairly well.
“If an individual wants to discriminate against Negroes or others in selling or renting his house, he has a right to do so.†- Ronald Reagan on the Fair Housing Act, 1966
SACRAMENTO, Calif. — California is one step closer to establishing an annual day honoring Ronald Reagan, the former president, governor and actor.
The state Senate on Thursday unanimously passed a bill designating Feb. 6 as Ronald Reagan Day. It encourages schools to spend the day commemorating Reagan's life and accomplishments.
I just don't Get It. What's the fascination with this guy? He was a mediocre president at best. I have no idea whether or not he's considered a good or bad governor by folks in CA. There's even talk of putting him on the $50 bill.
Anyway, I don't live in CA, but I will celebrate Ronald Reagan Day all the same. I'll spend the entire day telling my neighbor to tear down that ugly row of bushes.
He is dead, he was shot while in the Presidency and didn't he have a brain tumor or something. That's about all people remember. They have forgotten the train wreck that was his time in office.
Wow, good to know that CA has gotten all of their deficit, unemployment and foreclosure problems in hand. Know they can get on with the real important stuff. Honoring a former governor who was a bigger dope than their current governor.
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In much the same way that FDR stood for the expansion of government, Reagan's presidency represented the scaling-back & privatization of the public sector.
Unfortunately you don't know what you're talking about. The number of US government (or "gummint" as many righties spell it) GREW under Reagan.
Oh yeah, and he had the AMNESTY for illegal immigrants.
Oh yeah, and when faced with ISLAMIC TERRORISTS in the Middle East, he CUT AND RAN.
Oh yeah, and he had more TAX INCREASES than TAX CUTS.
Oh yeah, and one of those TAX INCREASES was to pay for SOCIALIZED MEDICINE.
Oh yeah, and he was in favor of CUTTING THE NUMBER OF NUCLEAR WEAPONS.
Oh yeah, those big Reagan tax cuts, mostly BS. Most Americans were paying more in taxes after Reagan than before.
Oh yeah, the "Reagan Recovery". Complete BS. When Carter left office most economic indices were POSITIVE; GDP, jobs, tax revenues. But Reaganomic caused TWO YEARS OF DOUBLE DIGIT unemployment. Funny no one ever mentions that.
Oh yeah, the entire "brought down the Soviet Union" line. COMPLETE BS. By 1980 the Soviet economy was spiraling downward and they were starting to cut their defense spending. The US strategy of "containment" put in place by Harry Truman had been working for 30 plus years. But somehow Reagan thought, "let's spend money we don't have" and see if we can bankrupt our economy.
Our military was vastly superior to the Soviet military when Reagan took office, and the CIA and DoD told him this. Nothing he did hastened the Soviet collapse. Reagan didn't like negotiating with the old guard Soviets like Andropov. When Gorbachev came in he wanted genuine peace and Reagan darn near signed away our entire nuclear deterrent. (BTW, Reagan originally didn't want to meet Gorby, Maggie Thatcher talked him into it).
Heck two months before Gorby was overthrown Reagan was singing his praises and saying he could see Gorby leading the Soviet Union for years to come. A couple of months later his own officers were kidnapping him and getting him out of office. Nothing Reagan did helped or hindered their actions and nothing he did made the senior military officers support Yeltsin.
The Soviet military's primary mission throughout the '70s had been to keep their satellite nations in line. They couldn't even handle a 3rd rate power, and one of their own clients, Afghanistan.
But you guys just keep on believing the Reagan myths.
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