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Old 02-18-2010, 07:39 PM
 
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Let's face it, obviously no one really knows what is going on in the global warming realm. One minute you hear people putting forth science FOR mad-made global warming with videos like "An Inconvenient Truth", the next people are debunking much of the so-called evidence, and scientists are coming forward to admit that their reports may not have been so accurate after all.

But the truth is, we don't really know for sure whether this whole issue exists or not. We don't have another earth that exists, with life forms who create factories that spew out CO2 that we can compare too. Time will only tell.

What I see on these boards is a turn completely AGAINST global warming, and the majority of people on here dismiss anything that says that we, as humans, are altering our planet. All of a sudden people seem to regard smoke stacks as harmless, and factories as well as their by-products as a neutral thing. So I ask you:

If man-made global warming is a hoax, do people not realize that regardless of whether CO2 is a "pollutant" or not, that it is not the only thing that comes out smoke stacks, or as a by-product of our various factories and refineries?

You can deny the greenhouse effect all you want, but you simply can't deny the smog in Bejing, the air quality of places like San Jose, or the fact that the run-off from the Mississippi River has created a huge dead-zone in the Gulf of Mexico that extends for literally hundreds of square miles.

Why are we all of a sudden dismissing the creation of green jobs and thinking it's ok to continue our disgusting and irresponsible pollution of this planet just because there is a debate going on that man-made global warming might be a hoax?

Am I the only one who thinks that maybe not dumping toxic waste into the very biosphere that created and sustains us is more important and significant then creating jobs or allowing us to continue our repulsive lifestyles of conspicuous consumption and excess?
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Old 02-18-2010, 07:56 PM
 
Location: Not far from Fairbanks, AK
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Forget about creating "green jobs" at the moment. Just create any job regardless of being green or not.
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Old 02-18-2010, 08:23 PM
 
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AGW and climate change in general is not a booleen equation. I don't know of too many people who advocate unchecked industry. I believe the earth has warmed since the last ice age. My backyard was covered in ice 10k years ago. I believe we should be cautious and prudent whenever possible. I deny that taxing Americans a trillion bucks and redistributing it to some poor ******* in the outback of Africa is going to do the planet any good.
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Old 02-18-2010, 09:31 PM
 
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Well,

I think that we need to stop using oil for personal transportation not because of the environmental side effects but because of the economic effects. OPEC is mad at us and they are intent on hurting us. And we are buying there product? I'm for going for photo voltaic and electric cars. The solar cells would be on top of the house and you would have two batteries One hooked up to the cells and the other in the car. With Li tech you can use one battery to recharge the other with lead acid you would need to change batteries. That is my idea.
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Old 02-18-2010, 09:45 PM
 
Location: Great State of Texas
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I think there's some type of global climate change going on but I don't think it's man made.
The earth is just doing what it has done over time..change and adjust. And we won't stop it no matter how hard world governments try.

You can't stop Mother Nature.
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Old 02-18-2010, 09:55 PM
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Location: Colorado Springs, CO
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Science: Another Ice Age? - TIME

Time Magazine's article on the Science of global COOLING...the RETURN OF THE ICE AGE!
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Old 02-18-2010, 09:57 PM
 
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Even if Global Warming is a hoax, what is so wrong with respecting the Earth we live on and our children will live on and so forth?
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Old 02-18-2010, 09:58 PM
 
Location: Great State of Texas
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Where's Al Gore when you need him ? Why isn't he all over the press defending his position ?
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Old 02-18-2010, 10:01 PM
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Location: Colorado Springs, CO
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Even if Global Warming is a hoax, what is so wrong with respecting the Earth we live on and our children will live on and so forth?
Absolutely nothing... but using it through fear is.

Doesnt matter if it is Global Warming or WMDs

BEWARE THE ICE AGE Science: Another Ice Age? - TIME
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Old 02-19-2010, 03:18 AM
 
Location: Northern Wi
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There have been many threads on here about this. What about all the scientist who were blackballed and discredited for telling there story? Why did that happen if the evidence was so strong that they were wrong?

There is strong evidence that information was distorted and erased.

Considering how very important this information was to the world--it was handled with total irresponsibility and like it was unimportant. Maybe because they felt over confident that we were convinced hook,line and sinker already.

There are many things that have been changed to lower pollution. Destroying alot more of our industry for a scheme. But that's right, whatever industry pollutes more just buys carbon credits, courtesy of the government and paid to the government.

So have any of you read Obama's Green Plan yet? That alone would fundamentally change the United States to a place you would not recoginize. It's really a sick document.

httpwww.landrights.orgGreenPlan4Obama
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