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Old 01-22-2010, 09:07 PM
 
Location: Southcentral Kansas
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You might want to read this:

Dems Might Be Misreading Massachusetts Message - Shots - Health News Blog : NPR

In fact, Brown couldn't very well have criticized the substance of the health care bills because they resemble in many ways the Massachusetts health overhaul he voted for in 2006 and continues to support.
But Kat, you have to see that the people of Massachusetts have their form of Obamacare and why would they want to pay for the rest of us, especially Nebraska or Louisiana? Somehow I keep wondering why they would vote for someone who would vote for Obamacare, or Reid Care or PelosiCare. They would have been stupid to vote for that person. Many did, however, vote for her because of the D after her name. Good old independents.
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Old 01-22-2010, 09:08 PM
 
Location: Pinal County, Arizona
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My point? The only bill which has/had a chance of passing is the Senate bill, written by a former insurance company executive. It should be "InsuranceCare".
Yet, it was supported by the President and the Democratic Leadership in both the House and Senate.
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Old 01-22-2010, 09:09 PM
 
Location: Southcentral Kansas
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My point? The only bill which has/had a chance of passing is the Senate bill, written by a former insurance company executive. It should be "InsuranceCare".
Is what you say the reason that Dirty Harry wouldn't allow all Democrats and no Republicans to know what that pile of steaming Pelosi had in it? I think it makes no difference who wrote the thing, no matter what lobbyist was most involved, it was written by leadership and people that Obama promised us wouldn't be allowed in DC as long as he was in office.
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Old 01-22-2010, 09:15 PM
 
Location: Southcentral Kansas
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Sub Sound, We are cheering more for the fact that the government is being told that this should be a state issue and not for the federal government to take over. I do not like the fact that I can barely make ends meet because I have to pay for my own insurance but I darn sure would rather have that then be forced to pay into a plan so that others who are to lazy or have made poor life choices can not pay for themselves. I help out my family in need and through my church have helped several other families so I am not heartless just believe they are other ways to accomplish things.
Most people on both sides fail to know that Barney Frank told a member of Single Payer that they have to go by small steps and there just aren't the number of necessary votes to get single payer now. What he actually told the man was that we get to socialized medicine in small steps and this bill was to be the first one of them.

I don't think many lefties believe stories like yours because their leaders have told them so many opposite stories.
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Old 01-22-2010, 09:18 PM
 
Location: Southcentral Kansas
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Your situation will only get worse-much worse! You will pay more and more for your insurance or risk losing everything in the event of serious illness without insurance. But gal-dang, you can have satisfaction that someone out there, who made poor life choices, is not being helped.
What you fail to see is that these bills provided for taxes for many people who don't have to pay taxes now. Just today I saw a young man tell the folks at the clinic that he had no insurance changes to report because he didn't have insurance. Now Reid and buddies wanted to tax him and fine him for being like that to pay for those who couldn't afford insurance. He is still a free man and can pay his own way but he won't be free any longer if something like ReidCare gets passed.
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