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Old 12-15-2009, 03:00 PM
 
Location: Austin
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Washington -- Audi's top U.S. executive warned that political leaders have "fallen in love" with electric vehicles even though it could take two decades before they are in widespread use.
Source: Audi exec: U.S. government has 'fallen in love' with electric vehicles | detnews.com | The Detroit News (http://detnews.com/article/20091214/AUTO01/912140412/Audi-exec--U.S.-government-has--fallen-in-love--with-electric-vehicles - broken link)

Electric cars are a threat to the oil companies and the oil sheiks in the middle east who were the puppet masters of the Bush administration. They are terrified of electric cars and will go through extreme measures to prevent their development. We could have switched to electric cars a decade ago, but both Democrats and Republicans prevented this especially the NeoCons.
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Old 12-15-2009, 03:01 PM
 
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Joe, do you plan to spend $40,000 on a Chevrolet Volt?

I didn't think so. And neither will the rest of America.
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Old 12-15-2009, 03:15 PM
 
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I'm not sure about the pricing of hybrid cars over the last 8 years or so, but didn't hybrids start off more expensive and generally decline in price as they became more popular?

If gasoline hits $4-to-$5 like the summer of 2008 you could see wait lists for these.
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Old 01-03-2010, 07:12 AM
 
Location: Keonsha, Wisconsin
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Source: Audi exec: U.S. government has 'fallen in love' with electric vehicles | detnews.com | The Detroit News (http://detnews.com/article/20091214/AUTO01/912140412/Audi-exec--U.S.-government-has--fallen-in-love--with-electric-vehicles - broken link)

Electric cars are a threat to the oil companies and the oil sheiks in the middle east who were the puppet masters of the Bush administration. They are terrified of electric cars and will go through extreme measures to prevent their development. We could have switched to electric cars a decade ago, but both Democrats and Republicans prevented this especially the NeoCons.
Today at 12 P.M. on directv's channel 286, Planet Green channel will present a documentary of "WHO KILLLED THE ELECTRIC CAR"

Sony Pictures Classics Presents : Who Killed the Electric Car?

Zuguide

This documentary is a must see for those of you who are friends of the environment. In the end of this movie, GM (General Motors) crushes perfectly good usable automobiles for no apparent GOOD reason.

The OP is absolutely correct about the oil companies and the Bush Administration crushing the electric car. GM should be put out of business for their shennanigans.

It is absolutely ludacris what the state of California did. They sold out to big oil, GM, the last administration and to the taxpayers of their state. It is repulsive. Taxpayer dollars went right down the toilet. It's no wonder they have a budget crisis with the way the politicians and other friends of the oil lobby sold out.
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Old 01-03-2010, 07:41 AM
 
Location: Columbia, SC
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I'm not sure about the pricing of hybrid cars over the last 8 years or so, but didn't hybrids start off more expensive and generally decline in price as they became more popular?

If gasoline hits $4-to-$5 like the summer of 2008 you could see wait lists for these.
It's like anything else.

Remember when a VCR cost $1000, and a 386 desktop computer $4000?
In the beginning, that's the way things were. When they gained acceptance, the prices dropped dramatically as more companies joined the competition. It will happen again with electric automobiles.

As far as oil prices, the $4-5 price rise had no reasoning behind it. It was a test of the American people to see what their pain tolerance was. When the public quit driving, prices at the pump dropped dramatically, then took a small bump upward again.

You are now trained to pay $2.50 a gallon or thereabouts for your gasoline, living in fear that it will go up and happy that it hasn't. The costs of producing it have not risen to any levels that would support the price increases since Clinton was President (It was $1.46 a gallon locally on Inauguration Day, 2001).

I currently drive fewer than 100 miles per week, so it doesn't make economic sense for me to buy any type of different vehicle than the one I own. If electric vehicles are a viable choice when I need a new car, I would prefer one over gas if the price was comparable.
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Old 01-03-2010, 07:47 AM
 
Location: New Jersey
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Today at 12 P.M. on directv's channel 286, Planet Green channel will present a documentary of "WHO KILLLED THE ELECTRIC CAR"

Sony Pictures Classics Presents : Who Killed the Electric Car?

Zuguide

This documentary is a must see for those of you who are friends of the environment. In the end of this movie, GM (General Motors) crushes perfectly good usable automobiles for no apparent GOOD reason.

The OP is absolutely correct about the oil companies and the Bush Administration crushing the electric car. GM should be put out of business for their shennanigans.

It is absolutely ludacris what the state of California did. They sold out to big oil, GM, the last administration and to the taxpayers of their state. It is repulsive. Taxpayer dollars went right down the toilet. It's no wonder they have a budget crisis with the way the politicians and other friends of the oil lobby sold out.
The EV1 was ahead of it's time, but GM felt that maybe it could have been the savior of the industry and decided to kill it.
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Old 01-03-2010, 08:04 AM
 
Location: Chicago Suburbs
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The EV1 was ahead of it's time, but GM felt that maybe it could have been the savior of the industry and decided to kill it.
Yes GM terminated it, but not as part of some conspiracy.



1997 GM EV1 - The 50 Worst Cars of All Time - TIME
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And therein lies the problem: the promise. In fact, battery technology at the time was nowhere near ready to replace the piston-powered engine. The early car's lead-acid bats, and even the later nickel-metal hydride batteries, couldn't supply the range or durability required by the mass market. The car itself was a tiny, super-light two-seater, not exactly what American consumers were looking for. And the EV1 was horrifically expensive to build, which was why GM's execs terminated the program — handing detractors yet another stick to beat them with. GM, the company that had done more to advance EV technology than any other, became the company that "killed the electric car."

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Old 01-03-2010, 08:13 AM
 
Location: Fort Worth Texas
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Source: Audi exec: U.S. government has 'fallen in love' with electric vehicles | detnews.com | The Detroit News (http://detnews.com/article/20091214/AUTO01/912140412/Audi-exec--U.S.-government-has--fallen-in-love--with-electric-vehicles - broken link)

Electric cars are a threat to the oil companies and the oil sheiks in the middle east who were the puppet masters of the Bush administration. They are terrified of electric cars and will go through extreme measures to prevent their development. We could have switched to electric cars a decade ago, but both Democrats and Republicans prevented this especially the NeoCons.
The article does not mention Bush,I giess you see Bush boogie men everywhere.
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Old 01-03-2010, 08:23 AM
 
Location: Here
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On the bring of bankruptcy and a Government bailout, GM decided not to revisit plans to begin building the EV1. Wow! That must have been one heck of a car.
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Old 01-03-2010, 08:29 AM
 
Location: Keonsha, Wisconsin
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Yes GM terminated it, but not as part of some conspiracy.



1997 GM EV1 - The 50 Worst Cars of All Time - TIME
Not true, according to this documentary, a long lasting battery was developed for the car about 1 year later after production.
Kooks as they're sometimes called are the people who have EXPOSED GM, SHELL OIL COMPANY, AND THE BUSH ADMINISTRATION.

If anyone can see this documentary, it will be worth the while. It's not a bunch of kooky conspiracy theorists at work here, IT IS FACTUAL.
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