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View Poll Results: Are white nationalists all racists?
Yes 37 64.91%
No 20 35.09%
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Old 11-28-2009, 01:40 PM
 
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In theroy? No. If someone wants to be around only people who look like them, then they have a right to do that, however ignorant that may be.

In practice, it's simply a cover for white racism.

Truth be told, I don't agree with this concept that somehow everything and everywhere needs to be "diverse", like it's some sort of virtue. Also, there is a bias against whites being segregated. I bet if a Black or Asian person requested being around others of similar ethnicity, it wouldn't cause even remotely as much of an uproar.

No, of course not. That's because whites are the majority and have much of the power and control is the USA.

If Blacks were in the position as whites and whites were in the position as blacks, it would be a problem if blacks wanted to segregate. Whites have had and continue to have more advantages than any minority group in the USA. You may not admit it and many whites may not but whites do.

Whites do segregate themselves. It's just not called segregation.
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Old 11-28-2009, 01:45 PM
 
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In theroy? No. If someone wants to be around only people who look like them, then they have a right to do that, however ignorant that may be.

In practice, it's simply a cover for white racism.

Truth be told, I don't agree with this concept that somehow everything and everywhere needs to be "diverse", like it's some sort of virtue. Also, there is a bias against whites being segregated. I bet if a Black or Asian person requested being around others of similar ethnicity, it wouldn't cause even remotely as much of an uproar.
it's not whether whites want to be segregated that people have a problem but that white power groups are more militant and very serious than they appear to be or try to present themselves. their racial hatred of others and supremacism ideology is masked by a pretencious and benign rhetoric of 'we just want separation'. you will find out that is not the truth, there is not just hate brewing in their minds and hearts from what is happening to their "culture" or "country" etc but just pure hate and condescension based on differences period.

sure there are members who just want separation and that's all they want but many espouse and believe thier race is superior and feel they have a right to be judge, jury and executioner. you will see a lot of sentiment similar to that and read a lot of hate based on beliefs of superiority and especially "moral" superiority based on race. this comes in handy in justifying any violence or aggression and pretending it's just righteous and they are still "innocent" if they ever gain the power to do so. the majority of them are supremacist or have supremacist ideology whether they realize, admit it or categorize it that way. they've toned it down a lot but that's just it, they are just not saying what they really think to garner more support and members. they've even discussed these issues to attract or not scare off others.
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Old 11-28-2009, 01:58 PM
 
Location: Midwest City, Oklahoma
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We have this great tradition of freedoms in this country, one of the key ones is freedom of religion. I am not sure that this freedom has made us any happier. One of the more interesting things I have found about the worlds happiest countries. Almost of them are very religious countries, and many of them actually have a "church tax", which is usually an income tax that directly supports the churches of their country.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Church_tax

From the list of top 10 happiest countries, four of them, Denmark, Finland, Iceland, and Switzerland, support churches through government mandated taxes. And a fifth one Ireland, is an extremely religious Catholic country.
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Old 11-28-2009, 02:05 PM
 
Location: Midwest City, Oklahoma
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it's not whether whites want to be segregated that people have a problem but that white power groups are more militant and very serious than they appear to be or try to present themselves. their racial hatred of others and supremacism ideology is masked by a pretencious and benign rhetoric of 'we just want separation'. you will find out that is not the truth, there is not just hate brewing in their minds and hearts from what is happening to their "culture" or "country" etc but just pure hate and condescension based on differences period.

sure there are members who just want separation and that's all they want but many espouse and believe thier race is superior and feel they have a right to be judge, jury and executioner. you will see a lot of sentiment similar to that and read a lot of hate based on beliefs of superiority and especially "moral" superiority based on race. this comes in handy in justifying any violence or aggression and pretending it's just righteous and they are still "innocent" if they ever gain the power to do so. the majority of them are supremacist or have supremacist ideology whether they realize, admit it or categorize it that way. they've toned it down a lot but that's just it, they are just not saying what they really think to garner more support and members. they've even discussed these issues to attract or not scare off others.
The problem is, the people who just want to be separated are painted by the media as all being racists. To the extent that, people tend to believe anyone that wants to be separate can be nothing other than a racist. The very notion of white nationalism is political suicide in this very politically correct country.

By painting all white nationalists as racists, we have effectly been able to ignore all white nationalists as extremists that only seek to destroy our country. Even when all facts prove that multi-culturalism and racial-pluralism are extremely damaging to a country.

The reality is, this country was EXTREMELY rich after WWII and for many years after, because we were the manufacturing base of the entire world, and we funded and rebuilt Europe after the war. Since that time, we have made our steady and irreversible decline. The only thing that is holding this VERY seggregated country together is wealth. If the economy gets worse than it is today, I can almost guarantee you that this country will come apart at the seams, and the people who only tolerated political correctness and misguided diversity will break off and not repeat the same mistakes this country has already made.
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Old 11-28-2009, 02:05 PM
 
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Are white nationalists all racists?

No. Only about 99.99% are. There's always one guy who doesn't get the memo.
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Old 11-28-2009, 02:09 PM
 
Location: Houston
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Man, I'm sick and tired of people calling everybody a "racist". Let's take Europe. It actually still MEANS something over there. "Racists" are people who are violently fighting against whoever, who are doing whatever they can to get whoever out of the country, or are really discriminating against someone.

I'm always shocked at the way people use the word "racist" here. You're a racist when you say you want to live in a "white neighborhood", people call you a racist when only 10% of your friends are black and not 13% like the national average, you're a racist when you don't like Oprah, you're a racist when you when you don't like Obama or didn't vote for him ( well , that's your own loss) and you're a racist when you don't give enough "black names" to hurricanes. That's what my congresswoman Sheila Jackson Lee said, btw. Whatever it is, people will jsut trow that word at you. Dosen't matter how ridiculous it is.

That word is TOTALLY overused. How can someone take it seriously now? It's unfair and undermines those who actually experience racism.
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Old 11-28-2009, 02:15 PM
 
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"Birds of a feather, flock together". It's driven by genetics and brain hard-wiring, left over from pre-history. Not saying we are--or should be--ruled totally by genetic instincts; only that it's part of our natures to feel most comfortable with those that look like oneself.

There are white racists/nationalists and black racist/nationalists. So what.
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Old 11-28-2009, 02:17 PM
 
Location: Central, IL
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"Birds of a feather, flock together". It's driven by genetics and brain hard-wiring, left over from pre-history. Not saying we are--or should be--ruled totally by genetic instincts; only that it's part of our natures to feel most comfortable with those that look like oneself.

There are white racists/nationalists and black racist/nationalists. So what.

Just curious then, going by your theory that it is nature to feel most comfortable with those that like like ourselves, then what about those that purposely want to live with others that don't like them, or prefer not to live with people that look like them? If it is part of our nature, then would that mean those people are a mistake of nature?
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Old 11-28-2009, 02:20 PM
 
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If you want separatism on the basis of race, then that's racist, no opinion can change that.
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Old 11-28-2009, 02:24 PM
 
Location: Midwest City, Oklahoma
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"Birds of a feather, flock together". It's driven by genetics and brain hard-wiring, left over from pre-history. Not saying we are--or should be--ruled totally by genetic instincts; only that it's part of our natures to feel most comfortable with those that look like oneself.

There are white racists/nationalists and black racist/nationalists. So what.
My only complaint is that, for some reason liberals have tried to push their misguided and genetically unfounded opinion that we only want to be separate because of ignorance. The truth is, we want to be separate because of basic human instincts.

The only way everyone in the world could live happily together in a country, is if we all had the exact same religion(or no religion/atheism), and if we all looked practically exactly the same.

The funny thing is, thats exactly what I feel most liberals want. They push atheism down our throats will practically encouraging interracial marriage which will eventually force us all to look the same.

It may seem like a great world, but I personally think it is very scary.
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