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Old 11-26-2009, 08:38 PM
 
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Article 11 of The Treaty of Tripoli clearly states that the United States is not a Christian Nation. Ratified by the Senate and signed by President Adams in 1797. These people fought in the Revolution and were the Founders of the Republic.

My Aunt who worked on the Manhatten project (and later a hand model, go figure) is perhaps Obama's biggest supporter. We can all come up with veterans who have different views.

 
Old 11-26-2009, 08:39 PM
 
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Sorry, Middle of the roader, but that sort of silliness just confirms your place on the political spectrum.
You are truly clueless about my political views.
 
Old 11-26-2009, 08:53 PM
 
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This morning, an unusual email came in from a friend of a WW2 vet. It's very well written and describes the frustration so many of us "old timers" feel. By the way, I'm 50 years old and the daughter of TWO WW2 Veterans. And yes, Mom outranked Dad!

If you like this letter, please pass it on.

This venerable and much honored WW II vet is well known in Hawaii for his seventy-plus years of service to patriotic organizations and causes all over the country. A humble man without a political bone in his body,he has never spoken out before about a government official, until now.

He dictated this letter to a friend, signed it and mailed it to the president.

Dear President Obama,

My name is Harold Estes, approaching 95 on December 13 of this year. People meeting me for the first time don't believe my age because I remain wrinkle free and pretty much mentally alert.

I enlisted in the U.S. Navy in 1934 and served proudly before, during and after WW II retiring as a Master Chief Bos'n Mate. Now I live in a "rest home" located on the western end of Pearl Harbor, allowing me to keep alive the memories of 23 years of service to my country.

One of the benefits of my age, perhaps the only one, is to speak my mind, blunt and direct even to the head man.

So here goes.

I am amazed, angry and determined not to see my country die before I do, but you seem hell bent not to grant me that wish.

I can't figure out what country you are the president of.

You fly around the world telling our friends and enemies despicable lies like:

" We're no longer a Christian nation"

" America is arrogant" - (Your wife even announced to the world,"America is mean-spirited. " Please tell her to try preaching that nonsense to 23 generations of our war dead buried all over the globe who died for no other reason than to free a whole lot of strangers from tyranny and hopelessness.)

I'd say shame on the both of you, but I don't think you like America, nor do I see an ounce of gratefulness in anything you do, for the obvious gifts this country has given you. To be without shame or gratefulness is a dangerous thing for a man sitting in the White House.

After 9/11 you said," America hasn't lived up to her ideals."

Which ones did you mean? Was it the notion of personal liberty that 11,000 farmers and shopkeepers died for to win independence from the British? Or maybe the ideal that no man should be a slave to another man, that 500,000 men died for in the Civil War? I hope you didn't mean the ideal 470,000 fathers, brothers, husbands, and a lot of fellas I knew personally died for in WWII, because we felt real strongly about not letting any nation push us around, because we stand for freedom.

I don't think you mean the ideal that says equality is better than discrimination. You know the one that a whole lot of white people understood when they helped to get you elected.

Take a little advice from a very old geezer, young man.

Shape up and start acting like an American. If you don't, I'll do what I can to see you get shipped out of that fancy rental on Pennsylvania Avenue. You were elected to lead not to bow, & not to apologize and kiss the hands of murderers and corrupt leaders who still treat their people like slaves.

And just who do you think you are telling the American people not to jump to conclusions and condemn that Muslim major who killed 13 of his fellow soldiers and wounded dozens more. You mean you don't want us to do what you did when that white cop used force to subdue that black college professor in Massachusetts, who was putting up a fight? You don't mind offending the police calling them stupid but you don't want us to offend Muslim fanatics by calling them what they are, terrorists.

One more thing. I realize you never served in the military and never had to defend your country with your life, but you're the Commander-in-Chief now, son. Do your job. When your battle-hardened field General asks you for 40,000 more troops to complete the mission, give them to him. But if you're not in this fight to win, then get out. The life of one American soldier is not worth the best political strategy you're thinking of.

You could be our greatest president because you face the greatest challenge ever presented to any president.

You're not going to restore American greatness by bringing back our bloated economy. That's not our greatest threat. Losing the heart and soul of who we are as Americans is our big fight now.

And I sure as hell don't want to think my president is the enemy in this final battle.

Sincerely,
Harold B. Estes

When a 95 year old hero of the "the Greatest Generation"stands up and speaks out like this, I think we owe it to him to send his words to as many Americans as we can. Sooooo, Please pass it on.

Amen. I have a clinic at the VA. Nearly all the vets really despise Obama.
 
Old 11-26-2009, 11:28 PM
 
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You are truly clueless about my political views.
You scream your political views from the rooftop with every post you make. You don't need to be Sherlock Holmes to figure out what your politics are.
 
Old 11-26-2009, 11:30 PM
 
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Amen. I have a clinic at the VA. Nearly all the vets really despise Obama.
Would that include the black vets, 95% of whom voted for him? Did you poll them all?

I'm a vet. I don't hate him. Nor do most of the guys I served with. I think you're possibly exaggerating.
 
Old 11-26-2009, 11:33 PM
 
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Probably because he watched his young friends die on a far-away battlefield trying to preserve the America that BHO seems determined to undermine.
Should have been whining at Bush then.
This war didn't start on 20 Jan 09.

And if you listen to Brit Intel you'll see that it was planned before 9/11.
Put your anger where it belongs.
On the last president.
 
Old 11-26-2009, 11:38 PM
 
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I would love to be able to show you the connection but I cannot. Soros owns us now.
If you can't prove the connection, perhaps there isn't one.
Duh.
Just because yo say something doesn't make it true.

You might want to look at Rupert Murdock and his role in media.
 
Old 11-26-2009, 11:41 PM
 
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Would that include the black vets, 95% of whom voted for him? Did you poll them all?

I'm a vet. I don't hate him. Nor do most of the guys I served with. I think you're possibly exaggerating.
I'm a vet, too.
I don't hate him.
The original thread on this topic had several vets who came out in support of Obama.
 
Old 11-27-2009, 09:30 AM
 
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already a running topic. Closed.
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