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Old 11-13-2009, 12:36 PM
 
Location: Maine
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Many on here, mostly socialists and other big government types, seem to be intent on labeling many things as a right. Health care, a job, a house, food, a "living wage" - these are some of the things that they tell us are our "rights."

So it comes as no surprise that they often lobby for the government to provide such things to people. After all, if it is a right, it has to come from somewhere, doesn't it?

Such concepts of rights stem from a very basic misunderstanding (though sometimes, I'd say, willful ignorance) of what a right is. A right is not something you receive from any source (unless you believe in God, then you get your rights from God). Rather, a right is something that you have simply by being human. It is not granted by government benevolence or by kind neighbors. It is something you can exercise without any provision from government or fellow human beings. Simply put, if it requires action anyone other than one individual, it is not a right.

I have freedom of speech, it does not require that anyone give me permission, nor does it require that anyone be present to listen. Nor does it require that government provide the means of speaking by stealing from other people.

Got that? Government does not grant rights, it either recognizes them or infringes them, but they do not grant them. If it requires that something be taken from another individual, it most certainly is not a right.
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Old 11-13-2009, 12:39 PM
 
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From God. I already did a 12 page thread on it a few months ago here:


https://www.city-data.com/forum/polit...ur-rights.html
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Old 11-13-2009, 01:12 PM
 
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From God. I already did a 12 page thread on it a few months ago here:


https://www.city-data.com/forum/polit...ur-rights.html
The Founding Fathers talked about God-given rights and the need for limited government, therefore they wrote our Constitution with limited government in mind -- but a lot of people don't believe in God at all - so where do they get their rights?
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Old 11-13-2009, 01:20 PM
 
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The Founding Fathers talked about God-given rights and the need for limited government, therefore they wrote our Constitution with limited government in mind -- but a lot of people don't believe in God at all - so where do they get their rights?
I guess they don't have any.
The rights were said to come from "the Creator." I guess that would refer to God, big bang, chance etc. - whoever or whatever the Creator actually is would be covered.
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Old 11-13-2009, 01:20 PM
 
Location: The Great State of Texas, Finally!
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The Founding Fathers talked about God-given rights and the need for limited government, therefore they wrote our Constitution with limited government in mind -- but a lot of people don't believe in God at all - so where do they get their rights?
Again, for possible penetration, however slight, rights are God-given. Doesn't matter what "alot of people" believe. Most of them don't even know who their elected representatives are. Now, Dancing with the Stars? They know that.
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Old 11-13-2009, 01:26 PM
 
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Key point: Our rights do not come from government. Our rights are established as liberites that should not be subject to government interference, not as things the government should provide or force others to provide.
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