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Old 11-09-2009, 04:25 PM
 
Location: SARASOTA, FLORIDA
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Are you serious? Remind me who the president was during 9/11? What administration received numerous warnings from other countries during the Spring/Summer of '01? What President received a direct warning a month before 9/11 of an impending Bin Laden attack on US soil?

Get off the Bush stuff for a change.

This happened all because your boy wonder is going after the CIA and wants to shut down the Patriot Act that protects us.

9-11 happened because Clinton failed to take out OBL when he had vast chances to.

Using your theory then, it was Bush's fault for 9-11 because he knew a month in advance. Ok, then thank you because I firmly believe that people were killed during Katrina because the Liberal mayor and the liberal Governor knew a month in advance that someone was coming and had a 7 day notice from sources that it was going to be a direct hit and did nothing about it.

We are much less safe now then ever in our lives.

Obama is in the WH, stop living in the past, didnt anyone ever tell you to look forward? No wonder the dems are in such chaos right now. They do not know which foot goes in front of the other.
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Old 11-09-2009, 04:27 PM
 
Location: mancos
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The left needs to accept the fact that the muslims have not forgotten the crusades
how many Knights did we send?
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Old 11-10-2009, 08:02 AM
 
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What's discriminating? The fact that this guy was a Jihadist terrorist in the making and wanted to prove his worth to Allah? That's not discriminating, it's common sense that's what he was. Call a spade a spade.....
And how do you figure out who the Jihadist in the makings are? Are you going to be as suspicious of a black kid from Harlem who's playing with the idea of converting to Islam? Are you going to be as suspicious of the white kid from Mission Oaks whose parents are Christians from Lebanon?

There are thousands of posts per day on the internet of people complaining about the US efforts in Iraq and Afghanistan, complaining about the United States empiricist leanings, complaining about heretics and infidels.

Hasan was a native-born American who volunteered for the Army seventeen years ago. If you are a CIA analyst, do you assess the American-born Army doctor as a greater threat than the Egyptian born 18-year old who's also posting anti-American rhetoric on anti-American websites?

It's not common sense to say yes. It's not common sense to say that we should apply close and even invasive scrutiny to every Muslim American soldier, or to each soldier who has family ties in the Middle East. If you are singling out an ethnic group or religious group, then you are discriminating. More than that, you are wasting resources. Because if you focus your resources in one direction, then the threat from another direction will slip on through.

We cannot try to protect ourselves in an irrational manner. Our intelligence services serve us best when they are deployed methodically, diligently, and thoughtfully. But there will always be irrational individuals who will slip through that methodical, diligent, and thoughtful analysis, just because they are so irrational. What happened was tragic, made more so because Hasan left clues to his irrationality that were identified by our intelligence services. But the nature of sanity is to understand patterns in a rational manner. Hasan's pattern wasn't rational, something inside of Hasan is broken, the something that keeps our behavior rational and sane, Hasan doesn't have that. And I am in no way excusing his behavior. I don't believe in the insanity defense. I don't think Hasan should ever be free again, he should be locked away forever. I just think that our intelligence service is doing an overwhelming job to the best of their ability, and I don't think it would make that service better if they began discriminating against suspects solely on the basis of ethnicity or religion.
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