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Old 09-04-2009, 10:46 PM
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I have decided, and have let all my representatives...including the President.. know that I will never again vote for ANYONE who does not support the public option in health care reform. Just curious how many others feel the same and how many of you have informed your reps, and the President, of how you feel?

I know the Dems may believe that we Independents and Progressives have no where to go except to them. What they may not be taking into account is that we will just stay home if it appears that our votes bring about nothing in which we believe. Or that we may finally have enough and start a viable 3rd party.
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Old 09-04-2009, 10:50 PM
 
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I have decided, and have let all my representatives...including the President.. know that I will never again vote for ANYONE who does not support the public option in health care reform. Just curious how many others feel the same and how many of you have informed your reps, and the President, of how you feel?

I know the Dems may believe that we Independents and Progressives have no where to go except to them. What they may not be taking into account is that we will just stay home if it appears that our votes bring about nothing in which we believe. Or that we may finally have enough and start a viable 3rd party.
They will be devastated.
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Old 09-04-2009, 10:51 PM
 
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I have decided, and have let all my representatives...including the President.. know that I will never again vote for ANYONE who does not support the public option in health care reform. Just curious how many others feel the same and how many of you have informed your reps, and the President, of how you feel?

I know the Dems may believe that we Independents and Progressives have no where to go except to them. What they may not be taking into account is that we will just stay home if it appears that our votes bring about nothing in which we believe. Or that we may finally have enough and start a viable 3rd party.
You are far from alone on this one.
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Old 09-04-2009, 10:55 PM
 
Location: Sierra Vista, AZ
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I'm beyond that ALL of these Bills are just more layers of fat. They need to scrap all of them and go with Single Payer or nothing. Medicare for all or Medicare for NONE.

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Old 09-04-2009, 10:55 PM
 
Location: Iowa, Heartland of Murica
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When I hear some of these GOP ignoramuses state that 80% of the American people are happy with what we currently have, I can only think of two possible scenarios:

A- They are lying

OR

B- Most Americans are idiotic, not just idiotic, very idiotic!
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Old 09-04-2009, 10:57 PM
 
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When I hear some of these GOP ignoramuses state that 80% of the American people are happy with what we currently have, I can only think of two possible scenarios:

A- They are lying

OR

B- Most Americans are idiotic, not just idiotic, very idiotic!
You can't imagine how much that hurts the feelings of Americans.
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Old 09-04-2009, 10:57 PM
 
Location: Great State of Texas
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If it doesn't go through this year he still has 3 more.
Everyone said to give him time. So give it to him.
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Old 09-04-2009, 10:57 PM
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I'm beyond that ALL of these Bills are just more layers of fat. They need to scrap all of them and go with Single Payer or nothing. Medicare for all or Medicare for NONE.

I'd vote for that as the best possible choice.
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Old 09-04-2009, 11:02 PM
 
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When I hear some of these GOP ignoramuses state that 80% of the American people are happy with what we currently have, I can only think of two possible scenarios:

A- They are lying

OR

B- Most Americans are idiotic, not just idiotic, very idiotic!
Many people that claim to be happy with their private insurance really mean that they are pleased with their physician. That is why one of the scare tactics of the right wing propaganda machine is that the government will come between them and their doctor. It is funny that they call a public option or single payer Socialist, when all the while the monopoly that the insurance companies have had and how people are at the mercy of their bottom line is Corporate Fascism at its purest.


The Impact of Rising Health Care Costs

Economists have found that rising health care costs correlate with significant drops in health insurance coverage, and national surveys also show that the primary reason people are uninsured is due to the high and escalating cost of health insurance coverage.

A recent study found that 62 percent of all bankruptcies filed in 2007 were linked to medical expenses. Of those who filed for bankruptcy, nearly 80 percent had health insurance.

According to another published article, about 1.5 million families lose their homes to foreclosure every year due to unaffordable medical costs.

Without health care reform, small businesses will pay nearly $2.4 trillion dollars over the next ten years in health care costs for their workers, 178,000 small business jobs will be lost by 2018 as a result of health care costs, $834 billion in small business wages will be lost due to high health care costs over the next ten years, small businesses will lose $52.1 billion in profits to high health care costs and 1.6 million small business workers will suffer “job lock“— roughly one in 16 people currently insured by their employers.

http://www.nchc.org/facts/cost.shtml (broken link)
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Old 09-04-2009, 11:30 PM
 
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