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Old 08-23-2009, 09:43 PM
 
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“In the House bill, there is counseling for end of life,” Grassley said. “You have every right to fear. You shouldn’t have counseling at the end of life, you should have done that 20 years before. Should not have a government run plan to decide when to pull the plug on grandma.
Today on CBS’s Face the Nation, Grassley struggled to explain why he made that statement. Clearly uncomfortable with the question, Grassley stumbled over his words and even blamed President Obama for his word choice. He said that even though he knew the House bill “doesn’t intend to” kill senior citizens, he felt that he had a responsibility to nevertheless play to those fears:

Think Progress » Grassley Blames Obama For Making Him Say That Health Care Reform Would ‘Pull The Plug On Grandma’
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Old 08-24-2009, 12:04 AM
 
Location: California
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How embarassing for him.
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Old 08-24-2009, 08:38 AM
 
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Ah yes, the "party of personal responsibility". How many of us would have to move to Iowa, and how long would we have to stay, in order to send this douche-bag packing?

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Old 08-24-2009, 09:55 AM
 
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Ignorance breeds hate, lies are believed by the stupid. Now, the problem is that @50% of Iowans are ignorant (because they don't bother to get the facts or only listen to Rush and co.)... The other half (or, my guess, more than half) don't believe this crap, actually know the truth, but wouldn't show up for a Grassley event if their lives depended on it. I know, I grew up there. So Chuckie boy shouldn't be nearly so smug. And it's about time that somebody comes forward in Iowa and challenges his demented statements. Deluded...
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Old 08-24-2009, 10:18 AM
 
Location: NJ
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What happened to the party of personal responsibility?
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Old 08-24-2009, 10:26 AM
 
Location: Hangin' with the bears.
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Hmmmm, his constituents set the agenda for the town hall meeting, they read on the internet that grandma was going to get wacked, so he did what he was elected to do. He agreed with his constituents theregy feeding the fire of hysteria rather than smothering it with the truth.

Okey, dokey then, all's well in Iowa......
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Old 08-24-2009, 10:29 AM
 
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“In the House bill, there is counseling for end of life,” Grassley said. “You have every right to fear. You shouldn’t have counseling at the end of life, you should have done that 20 years before. Should not have a government run plan to decide when to pull the plug on grandma.
Today on CBS’s Face the Nation, Grassley struggled to explain why he made that statement. Clearly uncomfortable with the question, Grassley stumbled over his words and even blamed President Obama for his word choice. He said that even though he knew the House bill “doesn’t intend to” kill senior citizens, he felt that he had a responsibility to nevertheless play to those fears:

Think Progress » Grassley Blames Obama For Making Him Say That Health Care Reform Would ‘Pull The Plug On Grandma’

Why are we listening to Republicans?

Besides being fascists (mostly), they took themselves out of the debate eaely on.
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Old 08-24-2009, 10:31 AM
 
Location: Dallas, TX
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How embarassing for him.
Nothing could embarrass republicans today. They're incorrigible, completely oblivious to the realities.
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Old 08-24-2009, 11:09 AM
 
Location: Redondo Beach, CA
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He's a lying pig. The language in the proposed legislation was taken directly from the 2003 Medicare bill, and the only change was that it broadened the availability of those services to people who were not yet terminally ill, if they chose to voluntarily seek out that information.

I thought I hated Republicans while they were misdirecting the country's attention to go after Clinton for getting a blow job. Then I thought I couldn't hate Republicans more than I did when they lied us into a war for revenge and profit, brushed aside torture as "frat boy pranks", and threatened Representative Nick Smith regarding his son's campaign unless he changed his 'No' vote to a 'Yes' on the 2003 Medicare bill -- yes, the very bill they took this language from! Want to know how they really got that bill passed, in spite of Representative Smith's morally courageous stance against it?
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About 20 Republican congressmen -- all fiscal conservatives -- gathered nervously in a back room at the Hunan Dynasty restaurant on Capitol Hill on Nov. 21, trying to shore up their resolve to defy President Bush. It was the night of the big vote on the Bush administration's Medicare prescription drug bill, which they had concluded was too costly, and they began swapping tales about the intense lobbying bearing down on them.

. . .

But the most dramatic account was given by Rep. Nick Smith (Mich.), who is to retire next year and hopes his son will succeed him. According to two other congressmen who were present, Smith told the gathering that House Republican leaders had promised substantial financial and political support for his son's campaign if Smith voted yes. Smith added that his son, in a telephone call, had urged him to vote his conscience, and with the support of dissident colleagues, Smith stuck to his no vote.

The matter might have ended there had Smith not written his account in a Michigan newspaper column, adding an allegation involving threats of retaliation against his son's campaign if he voted no. Since then, he has declined to specify who might have pressured him, but his complaints have prompted outrage among Democrats and consternation among some Republican colleagues.

. . .
Read on, it's really quite a fascinating story. He referred to those offers of campaign financing assistance as bribes, and said they came from House "Leadership".

Anyone want to know who threatened his son's campaign and offered him bribes to change his vote? Three guesses. Come on, I know you can do it. . .

































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On March 17, 2004 an Investigative Subcommittee, headed by Rep. Kenny Hulshof (R-Mo.), was formed to investigate allegations that members of the Republican House Majority had engaged in vote buying by offering financial support for the congressional candidacy of Rep. Nick Smith’s (R-Mich.) son if Rep. Smith voted in favor of the Medicare Prescription Drug, Improvement, and Modernization Act of 2003. The Committee ultimately voted unanimously to admonish three members[20]: then-Majority Leader Tom DeLay (R-Texas) for offering “to endorse Representative Smith’s son in exchange for Representative Smith’s vote in favor of the Medicare bill”; Rep. Candice Miller (R-Mich.) for making a “statement to Representative Smith on the House floor during the vote on the Medicare legislation that referenced the congressional candidacy of Representative Smith’s son”; and Rep. Smith for making public statements that his son’s campaign was offered $100,000 and “an endorsement or financial support … from the National Republican Congressional Committee in exchange for voting in favor of the Medicare Prescription Drug Act” and for failing to “fully cooperate” with the investigation.

House Ethics Committee - SourceWatch
Yup, good ol' Tom Delay. But what's wrong with that, you ask? Deals are cut to sway votes all the time, right? Uhm, not that way they aren't. . .


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Robert Novak (yes, that Robert Novak) further reports,
On the House floor, Nick Smith was told business interests would give his son $100,000 in return for his father's vote. When he still declined, fellow Republican House members told him they would make sure Brad Smith never came to Congress. After Nick Smith voted no and the bill passed, [Rep.] Duke Cunningham of California and other Republicans taunted him that his son was dead meat.
. . .

United States Code, Title 18, Section 201, "Bribery of public officials and witnesses," states that under federal law, a person commits bribery if he
directly or indirectly, corruptly gives, offers or promises anything of value to any public official or person who has been selected to be a public official, or offers or promises any public official or any person who has been selected to be a public official to give anything of value to any other person or entity [italics Chatterbox's], with intent to influence any official act.


. . .

Who tried to bribe Rep. Smith? - By Timothy Noah - Slate Magazine
Of course all they got was their fingers slapped. It was the Bush Justice Department after all.

But poor Brad Smith, his father didn't buckle to leadership bribes and threats, so he lost his bid for his father's seat.

Yeah, Republicans can go bleep themselves.
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Old 08-24-2009, 11:51 AM
 
Location: Hangin' with the bears.
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Yeah, Republicans can go bleep themselves.
With so many politicians bleeping inappropriately, I think we should make bleeping themselves a requirement until they are no longer in office.
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