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Old 09-24-2009, 01:05 PM
 
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And on the other side of the ledger, California in 2007 had the highest-paid classroom teachers in the nation, and yet the Golden State had the second-lowest test scores.
Great example of not having/providing all relevant information to the reader, but still leading them to reach the desired conclusion.

The authors should work at fox.
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Old 09-24-2009, 01:25 PM
 
Location: Washington DC
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Soak the Rich, Lose the Rich - WSJ.com

This is why I'm a Republican and why I will always support conservative economic policy.
All you "rich republicans" who want to emigrate, bye don't let the door hit you in the ass on the way out.
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Old 09-24-2009, 01:26 PM
 
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All you "rich republicans" who want to emigrate, bye don't let the door hit you in the ass on the way out.
Makes no difference. They will stay have to pay US tax.
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Old 09-24-2009, 01:31 PM
 
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This lib does get it. If we shift the taxation to the national level the incentive to leave the high tax states disappears. If we then discourage moving to another country by continuing to tax the expatriates at the same rates they faced at home we would still collect the money. If the expatriates refused to pay their taxes we could just pull their citizenship and leave them at the mercy of the government of their tax haven.
A couple of points here. First of all, the majority of tax is paid to the Feds. Yes, there is a difference at State level and it can be significant but, generally, the high tax states are where the high paying jobs are.

Secondly, US citizens are taxed even if they are expatriates. In general, US tax is lower than tax in other industrialized countries and there are double taxation treaties in place. So there is no real benefit to moving overseas for tax purposes.

Finally, even if you do renounce US citizenship or your Green card, the IRS still come after you for a number of years.
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Old 09-24-2009, 01:35 PM
 
Location: Washington DC
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A couple of points here. First of all, the majority of tax is paid to the Feds. Yes, there is a difference at State level and it can be significant but, generally, the high tax states are where the high paying jobs are.

Secondly, US citizens are taxed even if they are expatriates. In general, US tax is lower than tax in other industrialized countries and there are double taxation treaties in place. So there is no real benefit to moving overseas for tax purposes.

Finally, even if you do renounce US citizenship or your Green card, the IRS still come after you for a number of years.
If you renounce your citizenship and have no assets in the United States, the IRS would lack jurisdiction I believe.
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Old 09-24-2009, 01:37 PM
 
Location: west central Georgia
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Are rich politicians being taxed as much as the "other" rich people? Or is it do unto others............?
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Old 09-24-2009, 01:38 PM
 
Location: Northridge/Porter Ranch, Calif.
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More jobs have been lost through outsourcing over the past 8 years than ever before. Bush gave the rich tax cuts, and Americans lost their jobs.

Put that little factoid in your drug-filled pipe.
By the 5th year of Bush's time in office, the rich were paying more in taxes, by percent, than they were during the end of the Clinton presidency.
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Old 09-24-2009, 01:45 PM
 
Location: Long Island
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More jobs have been lost through outsourcing over the past 8 years than ever before. Bush gave the rich tax cuts, and Americans lost their jobs.

Put that little factoid in your drug-filled pipe.
UHM...the outsourcing was during the last 16 years, ever since Clinton pushed NAFTA through congress

and Bush did NOT give the rich a tax cut (typical lib LIE) Bush's tax cut was 1% ACROSS THE BOARD...EVERYONE (who actually pays taxes got a 1% cut)....and the tax credits were ONLY to people making under 180K


put that factoid in YOUR pipe and smoke it
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Old 09-24-2009, 01:46 PM
 
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UHM...the outsourcing was during the last 16 years, ever since Clinton pushed NAFTA through congress

and Bush did NOT give the rich a tax cut (typical lib LIE) Bush's tax cut was 1% ACROSS THE BOARD...EVERYONE (who actually pays taxes got a 1% cut)....and the tax credits were ONLY to people making under 180K


put that factoid in YOUR pipe and smoke it
Didn't know India was a member of NAFTA
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Old 09-24-2009, 02:04 PM
 
Location: Long Island
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Didn't know India was a member of NAFTA
THAT'S why you are just a poster and not a plitician....nafta was just the start,,,but it brought about the most important parts...the reduction of trade tarriffs. since it there has been cafta, gatt, and many others

and the biggest sending of ur jobs to india was in the 90's,,,they outpace us as far as IT, and computers...
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