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Old 08-02-2009, 05:46 AM
 
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"On Thursday, 57 members of the House Progressive Caucus sent a letter to Pelosi and others complaining that the agreement with the Blue Dogs weakened language creating a government-funded health insurance option"

"Any bill that does not provide, at a minimum, for a public option with reimbursement rates based on Medicare rates -- not negotiated rates -- is unacceptable," the letter said.

Key House committee passes health care bill - CNN.com
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Old 08-02-2009, 06:07 AM
 
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You're mounting a valiant effort to try to scare people, but it's not going to work. Health care reform is coming, thanks to the Democrats, and Americans will be better off because of it.
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Old 08-02-2009, 06:09 AM
 
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I quoted cnn
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Old 08-02-2009, 06:11 AM
 
Location: Jonquil City (aka Smyrna) Georgia- by Atlanta
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The bill has plenty not to like but in the end they will vote for it because it is the only game in town right now.
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Old 08-02-2009, 06:22 AM
 
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not if the bill is so watered down that it defeats the purpose of having it they would rather start over than support this bill as theyve claimed
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Old 08-02-2009, 06:39 AM
 
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not if the bill is so watered down that it defeats the purpose of having it they would rather start over than support this bill as theyve claimed
So your feelings are with the Progressive Caucus rather than with the Blue Dogs...?
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Old 08-02-2009, 06:57 AM
 
Location: Tyler, TX
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Health care reform is coming, thanks to the Democrats, and Americans will be better off because of it.
Reform is fine. Restructuring and putting the government in control is not.

Why not cap the amount of malpractice settlements and remove the barriers that keep insurance companies from selling policies across state lines, and give it a couple of years? Why the urgency to push government control of the system NOW NOW NOW?

Eighty percent of Americans are happy with the coverage they have and the care they receive. The "crisis" has been manufactured to get people like you to fervently advocate for more government intervention in our lives.

BTW, I'm currently uninsured, so any attempt to claim that I'm only satisfied with the current system because my employer (me, lol) pays for some expensive plan is a non-starter. I want health care in the hands of private companies because I want innovation to move forward and better research to be done. I want the profit motive in place.
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Old 08-02-2009, 07:02 AM
 
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Reform is fine. Restructuring and putting the government in control is not.

Why not cap the amount of malpractice settlements and remove the barriers that keep insurance companies from selling policies across state lines, and give it a couple of years? Why the urgency to push government control of the system NOW NOW NOW?

Eighty percent of Americans are happy with the coverage they have and the care they receive. The "crisis" has been manufactured to get people like you to fervently advocate for more government intervention in our lives.

BTW, I'm currently uninsured, so any attempt to claim that I'm only satisfied with the current system because my employer (me, lol) pays for some expensive plan is a non-starter. I want health care in the hands of private companies because I want innovation to move forward and better research to be done. I want the profit motive in place.
do you think the health insurance industry is going to collapse in the face of competition, or become innovative?
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Old 08-02-2009, 07:14 AM
 
Location: Tyler, TX
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do you think the health insurance industry is going to collapse in the face of competition, or become innovative?
I read your post along these lines in another thread. If I wanted to respond to it, I would have done it then...

However - "government" anything is not a true competitor of any private company. They have virtually unlimited resources at their disposal and by merely utilizing those resources, they're reducing the consumer's ability to use the private company's product or service.

They also don't do much of their own research or innovation when it comes to medicine. There's no reason that'd change with virtually any form of government intervention. No, they'd still leave it up to those "evil corporations" to come up with all the medical miracles you so desperately want to provide to the masses. The problem is, without as many patients, and by being forced to lower their prices because of this "competition" you're so in favor of, they'll have fewer resources available with which to come up with those miracles.

I thought your argument was asinine in the other thread, and I didn't want to be confrontational about it then, and I still think it's asinine now, and I still don't want to be confrontational about it, but since you asked me directly...
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Old 08-02-2009, 07:23 AM
 
Location: Charlotte
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"On Thursday, 57 members of the House Progressive Caucus sent a letter to Pelosi and others complaining that the agreement with the Blue Dogs weakened language creating a government-funded health insurance option"

"Any bill that does not provide, at a minimum, for a public option with reimbursement rates based on Medicare rates -- not negotiated rates -- is unacceptable," the letter said.

Key House committee passes health care bill - CNN.com
lol...Today is Sunday.

Hasn't a lot happened since Thursday?
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