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Old 06-29-2009, 12:26 PM
 
Location: SARASOTA, FLORIDA
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In February, it was close to 70% and the disapproval was at a little over 10%.

Now, approval is down to 59% and disapproval is up to 34%.

Like it or not, approval is going down, disapproval going up.

Liberals will not look at it that way.

When it dropped last week they said it was only a few points but yet today the actual number went up a few point and they do the ole liberal double standard and are celebrating.

Lets face it, his trends are not looking to good right now as he is getting blamed more and more for his massive spending that has not fixed a damn thing and caused massive debt to all Americans.

Graphs show trends, day to day means nothing.

His trend is clearly showing he has lost his touch and more and more people are realizing he is not going to fix anything.
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Old 06-29-2009, 12:43 PM
 
Location: Hoboken
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Rasmussen releases a new poll almost every day, and it seems that every one of them makes Obama and Democrats look bad. Their bias is obvious. If they weren't biased, at least a few of their polls would cast Republicans in a negative light, but that never seems to happen.

You can play with numbers any way you want to make something look good or look bad. "Obama Approval Index at 0". Whatever.

An average of all current polls shows:

56% approve
39.8% disapprove

That's the bottom line.

Pollster.com: National Job Approval: Pres. Barack Obama

I think this link puts a lie to the oft repeated sentiment that Rassmussen is biased. There results are in line with other pollsters, so there is no reason to think the numbers inside the numbers are much different.

I am not sure casting one party or another in a negative light is a sign of impartiality. Anyway if you look inside the numbers, party affiliation looks pretty dismal for Republicans in Rassmussen as as well as the other polls.

Outside of Kos, I don't think any of the pollsters slant their findings. But If you believe Rassmussen is you can't think it only happens on one side. So which pollster (outside Kos because they are not a real polling organization) do you think slants things to the left?
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Old 06-29-2009, 12:51 PM
 
Location: NJ/NY
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I think this link puts a lie to the oft repeated sentiment that Rassmussen is biased. There results are in line with other pollsters, so there is no reason to think the numbers inside the numbers are much different.

I am not sure casting one party or another in a negative light is a sign of impartiality. Anyway if you look inside the numbers, party affiliation looks pretty dismal for Republicans in Rassmussen as as well as the other polls.

Outside of Kos, I don't think any of the pollsters slant their findings. But If you believe Rassmussen is you can't think it only happens on one side. So which pollster (outside Kos because they are not a real polling organization) do you think slants things to the left?
According to that chart, their polls consistently have the Disapprove number at 10 or more points than the trend... so yes, I'd think that chart shows their bias. The trend is correct but the numbers show the skew.

CNN would appear to be the left biased on that chart, but not as consistently as Rasmussen.
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Old 06-29-2009, 12:59 PM
 
Location: Hoboken
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According to that chart, their polls consistently have the Disapprove number at 10 or more points than the trend... so yes, I'd think that chart shows their bias. The trend is correct but the numbers show the skew.

CNN would appear to be the left biased on that chart, but not as consistently as Rasmussen.
I don't agree. If you look at the approval rating it is very close (couple of points) to the others so they may do a better job of getting an answer out of the undecided.

Here is another testament to their accuracy. Ignore them at your peril.

http://forum.boiseweekly.com/forum/s...ead.php?t=3783
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Old 06-29-2009, 01:14 PM
 
Location: NJ/NY
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Except Rasmussen uses the gap between Approve/Disapprove to come up with the approval index discussed in OP, which takes into account their "Disapprove" number which is much, much higher than the trend to come up with that number.
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Old 06-29-2009, 01:22 PM
 
Location: Hoboken
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Except Rasmussen uses the gap between Approve/Disapprove to come up with the approval index discussed in OP, which takes into account their "Disapprove" number which is much, much higher than the trend to come up with that number.
Rasmussen has a proven track record of terrific accuracy. Those who dismiss him are doing it because they don't like the results. They are doing based on emotion not facts. The fact is Rasmussen has been dead on in the last 2 elections, they know what they are doing. Obama polls must show the same thing hence the ABC infomercial and the upcoming healthcare town hall.
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Old 06-29-2009, 01:26 PM
 
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lol so you think it takes the new polls from today and gets an avg? Ok realclearpolitics doesnt but maybe yours does. I know I use to have to take old info to get an avg. Who knows. I didnt conduct your poll and never heard of your web site before.
You're obviously not looking at the site that I linked to. It's not a polling organization. It's a site that shows you an average of all polls.

And yes, it is based on current polling data. They're not taking a poll from three months ago and presenting it as current. That would be absurd.
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Old 06-29-2009, 01:27 PM
 
Location: NJ/NY
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Rasmussen has a proven track record of terrific accuracy. Those who dismiss him are doing it because they don't like the results. They are doing based on emotion not facts. The fact is Rasmussen has been dead on in the last 2 elections, they know what they are doing. Obama polls must show the same thing hence the ABC infomercial and the upcoming healthcare town hall.
I'm doing it based on the numbers vs. the trend as evidenced in this thread, and accuracy on Approval ratings, as we are discussing in this thread.
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Old 06-29-2009, 01:28 PM
 
Location: Charlotte, NC
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Hey, whaddya know? A zero for the zero.
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Old 06-29-2009, 01:30 PM
 
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I watched a Presidental Popularity trending specialist talk about which way the approval goes, and he said it was pretty simple. You look at Congress's approval rating, and the President's policies approval rating, and if they are higher or lower, the popularity rating would head that way over time. It has pretty much worked with every President. So sorry for Obama, but Congress has floored out, and his policies do not hold the same ratings as he does as a President.
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