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Old 06-03-2009, 11:39 AM
 
Location: Great Falls, Montana
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Worst President ever: Clinton or Obama?

YES ..

 
Old 06-03-2009, 11:45 AM
 
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Has to be Barry, and I hope his record stands for centuries but it seems lately when you think it can't get worse, it does.
 
Old 06-03-2009, 11:45 AM
 
Location: Pinal County, Arizona
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Worst President ever: Clinton or Obama?

Neither
 
Old 06-03-2009, 11:49 AM
 
Location: Under a bridge.
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Worst Presidents Ever:

1) Andrew Johnson--as a result of Jonnson's reconstruction program, it took the South nearly 100 years to fully recover from the civil war. His program was further enhanced by U.S. Grant who made the issues worse. But Johnson started the policies.

2) Lyndon Jonhson--Before LBJ was president, Americans obeyed the speed limit. LBJ lied about the Gulf of Tonkin incident using the fiction to expand the war in Viet Nam. As a result approximately 3 million people died (58,288 American soldiers, 1.1 million Vietnam People's Army, and 2 million civilians). After the war Americans trusted and supported thier government less than at any time since settlers landed at Plymouth Rock.

3) George Bush--Before George Bush was president, the United States was (mostly) at peace, and enjoying the largest economic expansion in history. GWB lied about the military capabilities of the government of Iraq, and led the nation into a needless war. At the same time GWB initiated policies with the Securities and Exchange Commission which enabled banks to offer more sub-prime loans than had been allowed since the great depression. As a result, housing prices escalated, Americans began using the equity in their homes for purchases of cars, remodels, vacations, and to just "pay down the credit cards." The practice of sub-prime loans directly caused a banking liquidity problem. Today the nation is mired in significant unemployment (Imperial County in California has well over a 25% unemployment rate), while suffering from declining values of equity markets (stock market). As a direct result of GWB's policies, millions of people are out of work, facing forclosures, and burying war dead.
 
Old 06-03-2009, 01:45 PM
 
Location: Northridge/Porter Ranch, Calif.
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Worst Presidents Ever:

3) George Bush--Before George Bush was president, the United States was (mostly) at peace, and enjoying the largest economic expansion in history. GWB lied about the military capabilities of the government of Iraq, and led the nation into a needless war. At the same time GWB initiated policies with the Securities and Exchange Commission which enabled banks to offer more sub-prime loans than had been allowed since the great depression. As a result, housing prices escalated, Americans began using the equity in their homes for purchases of cars, remodels, vacations, and to just "pay down the credit cards." The practice of sub-prime loans directly caused a banking liquidity problem. Today the nation is mired in significant unemployment (Imperial County in California has well over a 25% unemployment rate), while suffering from declining values of equity markets (stock market). As a direct result of GWB's policies, millions of people are out of work, facing forclosures, and burying war dead.
Don't know where you got your "information" but much of it is inaccurate.

The economy was heading toward a recession at the end of Clinton's 2nd term and became an actual recession by March, 2001. It only lasted until Nov., 2001 due in part to Bush's tax cut.

Bush did not "lie" about the military capabilities of the government of Iraq... Democrats, including Bill & Hillary Clinton, Al Gore and John Kerry, were making the exact same claims.

And as others here have pointed out, Bush (and Cheney) tried to reform the mortgage policies but were voted down by Democrats. Also, Barney Frank and Christopher Dodd had much to do with the mortgage meltdown (even though they will never admit it.).
 
Old 06-03-2009, 01:47 PM
 
Location: Oregon
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Jimmy Carter will always have my vote on that.
 
Old 06-03-2009, 01:53 PM
 
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Considering we left out the option of 42 other Presidents, this thread is little more than partisan trolling as written.
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