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Old 04-21-2009, 01:38 PM
 
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I would say the number is around 50%. probably higher.
50% of Americans are on welfare?
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Old 04-21-2009, 01:41 PM
 
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I would say the number is around 50%. probably higher.
so there are over 270 million american, of that 140 million are on welfare. Where are you obtaining this information?
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Old 04-21-2009, 01:45 PM
 
Location: San Diego, CA
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this has always confused me. you can't give a tax cut to people who don't pay taxes, but that exactly what he does. is he just afraid to call it what it is? the math is pretty simple. he says he is giving a tax cut to 95% of americans, which anyone with a 2nd grade education knows is a lie. but besides that, we don't have 95% of americans paying taxes. why is he such a mendacious idiot?
I'd say you are the mendacious idiot because EVERYONE in America pays taxes. The income tax is not the only tax (from the beginning it was never designed to be a tax on everyone) and instead for around 60% of Americans payroll taxes make up a much larger tax then the income tax.
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Old 04-21-2009, 01:49 PM
 
Location: San Diego, CA
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so there are over 270 million american, of that 140 million are on welfare. Where are you obtaining this information?
His rear end?
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Old 04-21-2009, 01:53 PM
 
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"Millions of American families who are eligible for the EITC do not receive it, leaving billions of additional tax credit dollars unclaimed. Research by the Government Accountability Office (GAO) and Internal Revenue Service indicates that between 15% and 25% of households who are entitled to the EITC do not claim their credit, or between 3.5 million and 7 million households."

Earned income tax credit - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia
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Old 04-21-2009, 02:03 PM
 
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His rear end?
Oh, you beat me to it, you rotten so and so!!!

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Old 04-21-2009, 02:14 PM
 
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50% of Americans are on welfare?
100% in alaska because they get rebates and tax refunds on money they didn't actually earn. That totally blows my mind that anyone up there would wag fingers about welfare, but especially that any self respecting republican would be the architect. I mean, what are they saying?

Characterizations:
if there's a budget deficit and you're giving tax cuts= credit card spending,
when you tax to break even, that's maintaining a lifestyle and passing the debt onto the next guy.
When you over tax to pay down national debt for as long as you can safely do so until it's paid, that's a responsible government.

Here's something I don't get. Careless deregulation for 30yrs, 8 yrs of excess, 2 civil wars (3 if you consider the left/ right divisiveness in america), another war on terrorism (added to the heap of war on poverty & war on drugs), wall street smelts down the bull taking along global economies and most major industries down the vortex of monopoly $$, and now we should use subtlety in dealing with problems head on?

The alternative plan presented by the GOP was not supported by the GOP on the floor. Why doesn't that register in anyones brain as being significant?
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Old 04-21-2009, 02:21 PM
 
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I'm sorry, was I talking to you? you can't back up any of your claims. it's all welfare. the child tax credit, welfare. the list goes on. I am just tired of the worst president in united states history also being the most dishonest.
What claims? That you dont look up information for yourself? You continue to prove that for me.

In most if not all of your threads you lay out these obnoxious statements and then just fight, fight, fight. You dont seem to really want to know anything beyond what you already believe. I think that's the definition of a troll.
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Old 04-21-2009, 02:23 PM
 
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and in all your posts, you get your mouth slapped by mods for your continual personal attacks. I present logic, you present moveon.org.

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What claims? That you dont look up information for yourself? You continue to prove that for me.

In most if not all of your threads you lay out these obnoxious statements and then just fight, fight, fight. You dont seem to really want to know anything beyond what you already believe. I think that's the definition of a troll.
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Old 04-21-2009, 02:36 PM
 
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and in all your posts, you get your mouth slapped by mods for your continual personal attacks. I present logic, you present moveon.org.
You mean the one where I followed through on your "anyone with a second grade education knows..." lead? Yeah, that was pretty funny, even if it couldnt stay up.

What logic? You asked a question, no one would answer it for you, you were directed to look it up yourself and you didnt want to do that. You wont try to learn on your own, and just stay angry - judging from all your other threads and posts I suspect that's your real goal.

What moveon.org? Urging you to stand on your own two feet and not rely on others is pretty conservative IMO.

And what's with the constant slapping refrain? Disturbing....
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